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Invisible grilles are pliablewires that are strung along windows either horizontal or vertical.
How often we see a young child or several children hang onto a line or such a wire.
In the long term, e.g. as this apartment has windows that are west facing, there may be frequent expansion and contraction of these wire lines. (Wear and tear).
And if children were to frequently play on these wires; one day the wire(s) may be more and more pliable.
And if the wires are hung horizontally, one day, an unfortunate child's head may just get stuck in between a set of the wires = suffocation.
Placing these wires vertical is harder. As a child cannot use his whole body weight to "loosen / cure" the wires as much as one which hangs on to the wire causing it to warp significantly (after some time).
Hope you can visualise what I am saying. This is pure common sense.


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Pardon me for the rough sketch.
It shows a child with his full body weight with both hands handing on the thin wire. And he placed his head between two wires.
Do note:
1. Of course, the manufacture or installer will always claim that it is safe.
2. Like everything, there is the "wear and tear" part. Where if a child were to frequently play or swing himself on the wires.
3. It also depends on the length of the grille. The longer the horizontal length, the greater is the concern of it flexing more.
4. Sunlight. As the wires are made of some kind of metal, there can be expansion through the years especially if the unit directly faces the afternoon sun.

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On 4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Invisible grilles are
pliablewires that are
strung along windows either
horizontal or vertical.How
often we see a young child or
several children hang onto a
line or such a wire.In the
long term, e.g. as this
apartment has windows that are
west facing, there may be
frequent expansion and
contraction of these wire
lines. (Wear and tear).And if
children were to frequently
play on these wires; one day
the wire(s) may be more and
more pliable. And if the wires
are hung horizontally, one
day, an unfortunate child's
head may just get stuck in
between a set of the wires =
suffocation.Placing these
wires vertical is harder. As a
child cannot use his whole
body weight to "loosen / cure"
the wires as much as one which
hangs on to the wire causing
it to warp significantly
(after some time).Hope you can
visualise what I am saying.
This is pure common sense.


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There is another aspect to consider when installing grilles.
For example, if a home uses sliding windows, then (in theory) it is preferred that the grilles are horizontal with minimal vertical support pieces. This is because, it would allow the sliding window(s) to be quickly (slide) opened or closed.
Imagine, if sliding windows were used and grilles are vertical, it makes it very difficult to open or close the windows.
In my opinion, such invisible grilles are unfriendly if casement windows are/were installed. This is because, for casement windows, our hand(s) have to stretch out to open partially or fully opened.
In doing so, for most of us our (skin would scrape) the wire grille. AND in no time, especially for us man, it would result in having the hairs on our hands being scraped away. This may be good for a girl. But for us man, some may think that we are either hairless or mistaken otherwise....

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On 4/28/2013 9:10:46 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Pardon me for the rough sketch.It shows
a child with his full body weight with
both hands handing on the thin wire. And
he placed his head between two wires.Do
note:1. Of course, the manufacture or
installer will always claim that it is
safe.2. Like everything, there is the
"wear and tear" part. Where if a child
were to frequently play or swing himself
on the wires.3. It also depends on the
length of the grille. The longer the
horizontal length, the greater is the
concern of it flexing more.4. Sunlight.
As the wires are made of some kind of
metal, there can be expansion through
the years especially if the unit
directly faces the afternoon sun. On
4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, Cecil Lee wrote:
Invisible grilles are
pliablewires that are
strung along windows either
horizontal or vertical.How
often
we see a young child or
several
children hang onto a
line or such a
wire.In the
long term, e.g. as this
apartment has windows that are
west facing, there may be
frequent expansion and
contraction of these wire
lines.
(Wear and tear).And if
children were
to frequently
play on these wires;
one day
the wire(s) may be more and
more pliable. And if the wires
are hung horizontally, one
day,
an unfortunate child's
head may just
get stuck in
between a set of the
wires =
suffocation.Placing these
wires vertical is harder. As a
child cannot use his whole
body
weight to "loosen / cure"
the wires
as much as one which
hangs on to the
wire causing
it to warp
significantly
(after some time).Hope
you can
visualise what I am saying.
This is pure common sense.

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Install invisible grille + casement windows + open and close the windows daily = hairless hands!

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On 4/28/2013 3:49:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:
There is another aspect to consider when
installing grilles.For example, if a
home uses sliding windows, then (in
theory) it is preferred that the grilles
are horizontal with minimal vertical
support pieces. This is because, it
would allow the sliding window(s) to be
quickly (slide) opened or
closed.Imagine, if sliding windows were
used and grilles are vertical, it makes
it very difficult to open or close the
windows.In my opinion, such invisible
grilles are unfriendly if casement
windows are/were installed. This is
because, for casement windows, our
hand(s) have to stretch out to open
partially or fully opened. In doing so,
for most of us our (skin would scrape)
the wire grille. AND in no time,
especially for us man, it would result
in having the hairs on our hands being
scraped away. This may be good for a
girl. But for us man, some may think
that we are either hairless or mistaken
otherwise....On 4/28/2013 9:10:46 AM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
Pardon me for the
rough sketch.It shows
a child with
his full body weight with
both hands
handing on the thin wire. And
he
placed his head between two wires.Do
note:1. Of course, the manufacture
or
installer will always claim that
it is
safe.2. Like everything, there
is the
"wear and tear" part. Where
if a child
were to frequently play
or swing himself
on the wires.3. It
also depends on the
length of the
grille. The longer the
horizontal
length, the greater is the
concern
of it flexing more.4. Sunlight.
As
the wires are made of some kind of
metal, there can be expansion
through
the years especially if the
unit
directly faces the afternoon
sun. On
4/28/2013 9:03:42 AM, Cecil
Lee wrote:
Invisible grilles are
pliablewires that are
strung along windows either
horizontal or vertical.How
often
we see a young child or
several
children hang onto a
line or such a
wire.In the
long term, e.g. as this
apartment has windows that are
west facing, there may be
frequent expansion and
contraction of these wire
lines.
(Wear and tear).And if
children were
to frequently
play on these wires;
one day
the wire(s) may be more and
more pliable. And if the wires
are hung horizontally, one
day,
an unfortunate child's
head may just
get stuck in
between a set of the
wires =
suffocation.Placing these
wires vertical is harder. As a
child cannot use his whole
body
weight to "loosen / cure"
the wires
as much as one which
hangs on to the
wire causing
it to warp
significantly
(after some time).Hope
you can
visualise what I am saying.
This is pure common sense.


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Through time and "rough use" such wires may even sag as shown in the attached example.
Of course if, frequent inspection and adding more cross supports can further help as preventive situation.

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On 4/28/2013 7:27:43 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Install invisible grille + casement
windows + open and close the windows
daily = hairless hands!On 4/28/2013
3:49:34 PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
There
is another aspect to consider when
installing grilles.For example, if a
home uses sliding windows, then (in
theory) it is preferred that the
grilles
are horizontal with minimal
vertical
support pieces. This is
because, it
would allow the sliding
window(s) to be
quickly (slide)
opened or
closed.Imagine, if sliding
windows were
used and grilles are
vertical, it makes
it very difficult
to open or close the
windows.In my
opinion, such invisible
grilles are
unfriendly if casement
windows
are/were installed. This is
because,
for casement windows, our
hand(s)
have to stretch out to open
partially or fully opened. In doing
so,
for most of us our (skin would
scrape)
the wire grille. AND in no
time,
especially for us man, it
would result
in having the hairs on
our hands being
scraped away. This
may be good for a
girl. But for us
man, some may think
that we are
either hairless or mistaken
otherwise....On 4/28/2013 9:10:46
AM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
Pardon me
for the
rough sketch.It shows
a
child with
his full body weight with
both hands
handing on the thin
wire. And
he
placed his head
between two wires.Do
note:1. Of
course, the manufacture
or
installer will always claim that
it is
safe.2. Like everything,
there
is the
"wear and tear"
part. Where
if a child
were to
frequently play
or swing himself
on the wires.3. It
also depends
on the
length of the
grille. The
longer the
horizontal
length,
the greater is the
concern
of it
flexing more.4. Sunlight.
As
the
wires are made of some kind of
metal, there can be expansion
through
the years especially if
the
unit
directly faces the
afternoon
sun. On
4/28/2013
9:03:42 AM, Cecil
Lee wrote:
Invisible grilles are

pliablewires that are

strung along windows either

horizontal or vertical.How
often
we see a young child
or
several
children hang
onto a
line or such a
wire.In the
long term, e.g.
as this
apartment has
windows that are
west
facing, there may be

frequent expansion and

contraction of these wire
lines.
(Wear and tear).And
if
children were
to
frequently
play on these wires;
one day
the wire(s) may be
more and
more pliable. And
if the wires
are hung
horizontally, one
day,
an
unfortunate child's
head may
just
get stuck in
between a
set of the
wires =
suffocation.Placing these

wires vertical is harder. As
a
child cannot use his whole
body
weight to "loosen /
cure"
the wires
as much as
one which
hangs on to the
wire causing
it to warp
significantly
(after some
time).Hope
you can
visualise
what I am saying.
This is
pure common sense.


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How about roller blinds?

Many roller blinds have strings.. be it enclosed in beads or bear strings.

Take precaution of not having the bed close to these pulleys.

Using one's imagination, a loose string... may touchwood have a child's head tangled by these strings....

 


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Many Feng Shui concepts have it's roots in pure Common sense!

Many Feng Shui Masters are actually a Salesperson with a Feng Shui Store in disguise.

Recognise that their motive is only to Sell, sell, sell and make$$$, make$$$ make$$$! 

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Ask: Must I buy from you?

Spread the word to your relatives and friends. 

When the buying Stops!, the selling Can!

 


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Case Study: Any concern if blinds are installed?

1. Be careful to place the bed away from the roller blind strings. As it might be a hazard of suffocation.

2. Often if the ceiling fan is turned on, the blinds may lift up and down touching either the window frame or glass = noisy and may affect a good night’s sleep.


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THREE Best Safety-First Approaches are:

[1.] Purchase a reliable product.

[2.] Educate one's child or children not to go near or play with the invisible grille. The child is not to hang onto the horizontal wires or "monkey hang" on it.

[3.] Regularly keep an eye on any loose or sagging cables. 


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Some HDB clients said they are considering invisible grilles over standard wrought iron or aluminium grilles.

Told them to think twice. As unlike condo ECs which are not given a choice, there is no compulsion to install such grilles!

I am not associated with this AD. But long ago mentioned my concerns of installing invisible grilles:

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I repeat, I have no association whatsoever with this AD’s company! Nor seen as endorsing this business.

 


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