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How to know when to activate mountain & water star

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Dear Master Lee,
I have read the 20-year & yearly flying star report(please click here) on your website.
I don't understand some things:
1. why is it recommended to activate Water Star on North sector, although on this sector the water star is the inauspicious star 7?
2. why is it recommended to activate Mountain Star on North-East sector, although (again) the mountain star is (again) the inauspicious star 7 on the sector?
3. why is it recommended to activate both Mountain AND Water Star on South sector?
4. how to determine which flying star is mountain star and which is water star? (why are the mountain star and water star flying star number 6 and 7?). Is it related to Period of House Birth or what?
Please enlighten me. Thank you very much in advance.

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These are some considerations:
1. The Lowest common denominator or L.C.M.
1.1. Here, one must have a good grounding of the Five Elements Concept.
1.2. For example: Earth supports or fuels Metal
1.3. While : Water "draws out" Metal.
2. Without a solid or good grounding of the Five Elements; one will forever be at a lost.
3. For example: #7 ?
3.1. #7 under the Five elements concept is considered as a "weak Metal" element.
3.2. Under the PRODUCTIVE cycle of the Five Elements concept:
Earth > Metal > Water > Wood > Fire.
3.3. In your earlier 1st and/or 2nd question: since #7 is a metal element.
3.4. Under the Five elements concept Metal can be reduced by water.
4. So, my question to you is : What's wrong with using Water to reduce the Metal element? Look at it this way.. why you did not use the Earth element? instead of Water?
5. For other questions, I suggest that one make an effort to learn the Five Elements be it number assocations: e.g. #6 = strong metal; #5 = strong earth etc... and also both the Productive and Destructive cycle.
6. If the above, still sounds greek; after reading thru; then, better go back to the drawing board and try to have a solid grounding ..... of? The Five Elements concept.
7. Clue: Sometimes: to fight fire; you need erh... water? or strange as it may seem another element that can "hurt" or destroy in this case #7.

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On 1/28/2015 3:18:42 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master Lee,I have read
the 20-year & yearly
flying star
report(please click
here) on your website.I don't
understand some things:1. why
is it recommended to activate
Water Star on North sector,
although on this sector the
water star is the inauspicious
star 7?2. why is it
recommended to activate
Mountain Star on North-East
sector, although (again) the
mountain star is (again) the
inauspicious star 7 on the
sector?3. why is it
recommended to activate both
Mountain AND Water Star on
South sector?4. how to
determine which flying star is
mountain star and which is
water star? (why are the
mountain star and water star
flying star number 6 and 7?).
Is it related to Period of
House Birth or what?Please
enlighten me. Thank you very
much in advance.


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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Dear Master Lee,
my answer to your question:
because Water exhausts Metal and Earth supports/produces/strengthen Metal. If one wants to reduce the energy of inauspicious star #7 (weak metal) it is recommended to use Water.
Fire can also destroy Metal, but at the same time Fire produces Earth, which can support Metal. So it is not good way.
Is it correct, Master Lee?

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On 1/28/2015 2:08:22 PM, Anonymous wrote: 4.
So, my question to you is : What's wrong
with using Water to reduce the Metal
element? Look at it this way.. why you
did not use the Earth element? instead
of Water?

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1. Yes, finally, you got the point as to why Water can be used to against "Metal" element.
1.1 And often, especially in a home environment; an added bonus of using water be it yin water or yang water is that it is often much more "safer" to use than "fire element".
2. As the most yang fire element has to do with activating a light. And often, it can be more dangerous if we say use a light vs water. As water may/can be considered as the lesser of the two evils.
3. Futhermore, some geomancers are still a firm believer of the sector. And given that North belongs to the water element; some geomancers give weight to using Water to harmonize this sector instead of fire. If so, using "water" would help to satisfy such users.
4. In addition, "water" element is also safer in another context: For example, based on the annual flying stars or the monthly flying stars or even the daily or hourly stars: at times the dreaded #5 may fly into the sector. And wouldn't using the fire element further fuel the #5 = misfortune or sickness. But the water element can either drown the #5 or #2. The #5 is considered the worst star - as compared to other lesser evils like #3 or #4 etc...
5. Under the Five elements concept if one dwell closely; actually there is a further element that may help to reduce #7. Provided either the Water or Mountain Star does not have a #3 or #4 (bad wood(s)). Thus, there are more than meets the eye.
6. Another further consideration is that if the location is an open space e.g. a balcony; and if one really uses a water position; nothing else can be placed or "built" above it = allowing for clear space = creating a "bright hall" or bright area. Contrast to using a plant or even a fire object which often may be placed on a pedestal or cabinet etc... thus hindering the flow of qi or "bright hall".
7. That is why 8 out 10 times; even if the frontage may not be suitable for a water position; but if someone were to place a water position e.g. a water fall or pond etc... again nothing else can be built about this = clear space. And 8 out of 10 times; based on shapes and forms Feng Shui; this is a better or safer bet than e.g. planting a mango tree - for a landed property. And in 8 years time; the tree would cast a dark shadow, below. Frankly, I can think of more reasons, but I stop, here.
8. More: If there are no bad wood; sometimes introducing the wood element may also help to improve a MS or WS #7. As metal is suppose to destroy wood and thus become exhausted.

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On 1/28/2015 8:43:14 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master Lee,my answer to your
question:because Water exhausts Metal
and Earth supports/produces/strengthen
Metal. If one wants to reduce the energy
of inauspicious star #7 (weak metal) it
is recommended to use Water.Fire can
also destroy Metal, but at the same time
Fire produces Earth, which can support
Metal. So it is not good way.Is it
correct, Master Lee?On 1/28/2015 2:08:22
PM, Cecil Lee wrote: 4.
So, my question to you is : What's
wrong
with using Water to reduce the Metal
element? Look at it this way.. why
you
did not use the Earth element?
instead
of Water?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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For some, it is easier to see which elements are "associated" with metal either under the productive and/or destructive cycle.
Please see attachment:
1. Productive cycle. Here, water "draws out" metal.
2. Under the destructive cycle? One can clearly see two elements: Fire and Wood.
2.1. Fire helps to "melt" metal or shape it.
2.2. Just imagine one has a carving knife. And a block of wood. After sometime; the metal instrument may get blunt or a block of raw material = wood costs say $6. But after it was carved into a beautiful piece of art-work; it can fetch more...

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On 1/28/2015 9:14:23 PM, Anonymous wrote:
1. Yes, finally, you got the point as to
why Water can be used to against "Metal"
element.1.1 And often, especially in a
home environment; an added bonus of
using water be it yin water or yang
water is that it is often much more
"safer" to use than "fire element".2. As
the most yang fire element has to do
with activating a light. And often, it
can be more dangerous if we say use a
light vs water. As water may/can be
considered as the lesser of the two
evils.3. Futhermore, some geomancers are
still a firm believer of the sector. And
given that North belongs to the water
element; some geomancers give weight to
using Water to harmonize this sector
instead of fire. If so, using "water"
would help to satisfy such users.4. In
addition, "water" element is also safer
in another context: For example, based
on the annual flying stars or the
monthly flying stars or even the daily
or hourly stars: at times the dreaded #5
may fly into the sector. And wouldn't
using the fire element further fuel the
#5 = misfortune or sickness. But the
water element can either drown the #5 or
#2. The #5 is considered the worst star
- as compared to other lesser evils like
#3 or #4 etc...5. Under the Five
elements concept if one dwell closely;
actually there is a further element that
may help to reduce #7. Provided either
the Water or Mountain Star does not have
a #3 or #4 (bad wood(s)). Thus, there
are more than meets the eye.6. Another
further consideration is that if the
location is an open space e.g. a
balcony; and if one really uses a water
position; nothing else can be placed or
"built" above it = allowing for clear
space = creating a "bright hall" or
bright area. Contrast to using a plant
or even a fire object which often may be
placed on a pedestal or cabinet etc...
thus hindering the flow of qi or "bright
hall".7. That is why 8 out 10 times;
even if the frontage may not be suitable
for a water position; but if someone
were to place a water position e.g. a
water fall or pond etc... again nothing
else can be built about this = clear
space. And 8 out of 10 times; based on
shapes and forms Feng Shui; this is a
better or safer bet than e.g. planting a
mango tree - for a landed property. And
in 8 years time; the tree would cast a
dark shadow, below. Frankly, I can think
of more reasons, but I stop,
here.8. More: If there are no bad
wood; sometimes introducing the wood
element may also help to improve a MS or
WS #7. As metal is suppose to destroy
wood and thus become exhausted.On
1/28/2015 8:43:14 PM, Zhongqin Yang
wrote:
Dear Master Lee,my answer to your
question:because Water exhausts
Metal
and Earth
supports/produces/strengthen
Metal. If one wants to reduce the
energy
of inauspicious star #7 (weak metal)
it
is recommended to use Water.Fire can
also destroy Metal, but at the same
time
Fire produces Earth, which can
support
Metal. So it is not good way.Is it
correct, Master Lee?On 1/28/2015
2:08:22
PM, Cecil Lee wrote: 4.
So, my question to you is :
What's
wrong
with using Water to reduce the
Metal
element? Look at it this way..
why
you
did not use the Earth element?
instead
of Water?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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The attached graphic illustration shows why to "cure" metal; Water may be the "lesser" of the two evils (if any) vs or instead of using Fire element.
As one has to remember that the worst star is of the earth element = #5 = misfortune / sickness = strong earth.
Introducing #9 fire element may inadvertently fuel #5. If one considers : the Annual, monthly, the hourly flying stars.
In general, a "fire" cure is often more popular to be used on (generally) a sector with #3 bad wood element. Of course, the WS and MS should be considered. And if so, even if a #5 flies into that sector with #3; somehow; it is not as worse off as a sector without #3. As under the destructive cycle; wood does "play a-part" e.g. a tree with roots getting into the earth (say #5) and drawing it out...
Therefore; it is best to introduce a "cure" or "enhancement" (especially) a cure that has less effects on a sector be it for the 20 year flying stars or annual or monthly or daily stars. And not be myopic or have a tunnel vision in just curing for "the present". The future need to be considered, also.

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On 1/28/2015 9:33:56 PM, Anonymous wrote:
For some, it is easier to see which
elements are "associated" with metal
either under the productive and/or
destructive cycle.Please see
attachment:1. Productive cycle. Here,
water "draws out" metal.2. Under the
destructive cycle? One can clearly see
two elements: Fire and Wood.2.1. Fire
helps to "melt" metal or shape it.2.2.
Just imagine one has a carving knife.
And a block of wood. After sometime; the
metal instrument may get blunt or a
block of raw material = wood costs say
$6. But after it was carved into a
beautiful piece of art-work; it can
fetch more...On 1/28/2015 9:14:23
PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
1. Yes, finally, you got the point
as to
why Water can be used to against
"Metal"
element.1.1 And often, especially in
a
home environment; an added bonus of
using water be it yin water or yang
water is that it is often much more
"safer" to use than "fire
element".2. As
the most yang fire element has to do
with activating a light. And often,
it
can be more dangerous if we say use
a
light vs water. As water may/can be
considered as the lesser of the two
evils.3. Futhermore, some geomancers
are
still a firm believer of the sector.
And
given that North belongs to the
water
element; some geomancers give weight
to
using Water to harmonize this sector
instead of fire. If so, using
"water"
would help to satisfy such users.4.
In
addition, "water" element is also
safer
in another context: For example,
based
on the annual flying stars or the
monthly flying stars or even the
daily
or hourly stars: at times the
dreaded #5
may fly into the sector. And
wouldn't
using the fire element further fuel
the
#5 = misfortune or sickness. But the
water element can either drown the
#5 or
#2. The #5 is considered the worst
star
- as compared to other lesser evils
like
#3 or #4 etc...5. Under the Five
elements concept if one dwell
closely;
actually there is a further element
that
may help to reduce #7. Provided
either
the Water or Mountain Star does not
have
a #3 or #4 (bad wood(s)). Thus,
there
are more than meets the eye.6.
Another
further consideration is that if the
location is an open space e.g. a
balcony; and if one really uses a
water
position; nothing else can be placed
or
"built" above it = allowing for
clear
space = creating a "bright hall" or
bright area. Contrast to using a
plant
or even a fire object which often
may be
placed on a pedestal or cabinet
etc...
thus hindering the flow of qi or
"bright
hall".7. That is why 8 out 10 times;
even if the frontage may not be
suitable
for a water position; but if someone
were to place a water position e.g.
a
water fall or pond etc... again
nothing
else can be built about this = clear
space. And 8 out of 10 times; based
on
shapes and forms Feng Shui; this is
a
better or safer bet than e.g.
planting a
mango tree - for a landed property.
And
in 8 years time; the tree would cast
a
dark shadow, below. Frankly, I can
think
of more reasons, but I stop,
here.8. More: If there are no
bad
wood; sometimes introducing the wood
element may also help to improve a
MS or
WS #7. As metal is suppose to
destroy
wood and thus become exhausted.On
1/28/2015 8:43:14 PM, Zhongqin Yang
wrote:
Dear Master Lee,my answer to
your
question:because Water exhausts
Metal
and Earth
supports/produces/strengthen
Metal. If one wants to reduce
the
energy
of inauspicious star #7 (weak
metal)
it
is recommended to use Water.Fire
can
also destroy Metal, but at the
same
time
Fire produces Earth, which can
support
Metal. So it is not good way.Is
it
correct, Master Lee?On 1/28/2015
2:08:22
PM, Cecil Lee wrote: 4.
So, my question to you is :
What's
wrong
with using Water to reduce
the
Metal
element? Look at it this
way..
why
you
did not use the Earth
element?
instead
of Water?


Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

Master Cecil Lee, Geomancy.Net

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Master Lee, thank you very much for the great explanation included the pic. *bow*

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On 1/28/2015 10:14:23 PM, Anonymous wrote:
The attached graphic illustration shows
why to "cure" metal; Water may be the
"lesser" of the two evils (if any) vs or
instead of using Fire element.As one has
to remember that the worst star is of
the earth element = #5 = misfortune /
sickness = strong
earth.Introducing #9 fire element
may inadvertently fuel #5. If one
considers : the Annual, monthly, the
hourly flying stars.In general, a "fire"
cure is often more popular to be used on
(generally) a sector with #3 bad wood
element. Of course, the WS and MS should
be considered. And if so, even if a #5
flies into that sector with #3; somehow;
it is not as worse off as a sector
without #3. As under the destructive
cycle; wood does "play a-part" e.g. a
tree with roots getting into the earth
(say #5) and drawing it
out...Therefore; it is best to
introduce a "cure" or "enhancement"
(especially) a cure that has less
effects on a sector be it for the 20
year flying stars or annual or monthly
or daily stars. And not be myopic or
have a tunnel vision in just curing for
"the present". The future need to be
considered, also

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