Which is the correct cure?

[mksay]

Dear Cecil & Robert,
I am confused about something, as my knowledge on Flying Star is limited.
For the natal chart of NW3 of period 3, there are two bad sectors identified:
a. North: base 3, mountain 2, water 4
Theory 1: Look at the mountain & water stars
2(strong earth), 4(weak wood)
earth is controlled by wood, so need METAL to control the wood
Theory 2: Consider the 2/3 combo of mountain and base stars
2(strong earth), 3(strong wood)
Cure by placing a large urn of water here
Questions:
Theory 1: don't we need to consider the weak wood is too weak to control the strong earth?
Theory 2: why water? water enhances wood that can then continue to destroy earth?
b. South: base 2, mountain 1, water 3
Theory 1: 1(weak water), 3(strong wood)
Need FIRE to weaken wood
Theory 2: consider the 2/3 combo and can be controlled by large presence of water
Questions:
FIRE and WATER seem contradictory. Which is the right one?
Is there any precedence among
Mountain vs Water stars
Mountain vs Base stars
Water vs Base stars?

[Robert Lee]

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From: "Rose Say"
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Dear Cecil & Robert,
I am confused about something, as my knowledge on Flying Star is limited.
For the natal chart of NW3 of period 3, there are two bad sectors
identified:
a. North: base 3, mountain 2, water 4
Theory 1: Look at the mountain & water stars
2(strong earth), 4(weak wood)
earth is controlled by wood, so need METAL to control the wood
Theory 2: Consider the 2/3 combo of mountain and base stars
2(strong earth), 3(strong wood)
Cure by placing a large urn of water here
Questions:
Theory 1: don't we need to consider the weak wood is too weak to control
the strong earth?

Yes, we do, but even for weak wood it does help to control earth in some
way. The reason for Metal is that Metal will exhaust the 2 strong Earth this
weakens the (inauspicious 2 star). Then while exhausting Metal, metal gains
strength from Earth, thus, it is able to destroy the weak Wood (inauspicious
4 star). So this way do you notice that Metal does two cures with one
element?
It draw strength from the strong Earth to destroy Wood.

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Theory 2: why water? water enhances wood that can then continue to destroy
earth?

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2(strong earth), 3(strong wood)
Cure by placing a large urn of water here
Personally, I don't see why you should use water, I think that Metal will
again be the best solution. Because both stars are inauspicious so the
priority is to reduce all inauspicious influence. Where did you obtain this
information?
b. South: base 2, mountain 1, water 3
Theory 1: 1(weak water), 3(strong wood)
Need FIRE to weaken wood
Theory 2: consider the 2/3 combo and can be controlled by large presence of
water
Fire is the correct element to emply here because 1 weak water is an
auspicious star, while strong wood requires Fire to deduce the influence.
Questions:
FIRE and WATER seem contradictory. Which is the right one?

What so contradictory about it? Water destroy Fire, but Fire destroy Metal.
It does not destroy each other. You see when say Water, Wood, Fire comes in
this sequence, what happens is that a balance is nearly created.
Water produce Wood - (Wood becomes stronger, Water is weaken)
Wood produces Fire - (Fire becomes stronger, Wood is weaken)
Fire produces Earth - (Earth becomes stronger, Fire is weaken)
Do you see the sequence. Thus, when they are weaken, their destruction
effect is weaken, so it will not affect the cycle instead promotes harmony.

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Is there any precedence among
Mountain vs Water stars
Mountain vs Base stars
Water vs Base stars?

The order should go as:-
1. Mountain vs Water Star
2. Both (Mountain vs Water Star) in relation with Base Star
These two combination determines the influences of the entire sector for the
entire 20 year.
1. 20-year vs yearly
2. yearly vs monthly
3. monthly vs daily
4. daily vs hourly
5. hourly vs minute
6. minute vs second
However, mostly for house evaluation, up to monthly is sufficient, any more
is very very complex!
These will help to determine during the 20-year what kind of influence has
entered the sector. It can be good or can be bad. All determined by how the
elements, auspicious/inauspicious, element strength interact with each
other. Then applying that to the relationship objects represented by the
Five Element and the Trigrams gives you the explanation. I believe you can
obtain the details of the Five Elements from Cecil's Applied Feng Shui
Course or the Applied Feng Shui Made Easy Book. There is a long list of
relationship of Five elements, objects, human parts, etc.
Warmest Regards
Robert Lee

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[mksay]

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On 5/26/99 11:04:18 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Personally, I don't see why you should use water, I think that Metal will again be the best solution. Because both stars are

inauspicious so the priority is to reduce all inauspicious influence. Where did you obtain this information?
------> Source of Info: pg 62 of Lillian Too's Flying Star Feng Shui. I believe she was concentrating on only the base 2 mountain 3 combination. Isn't thar dangerous to analyze the situation only partially?

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b. South: base 2, mountain 1, water 3
Theory 1: 1(weak water), 3(strong wood)
Need FIRE to weaken wood
Theory 2: consider the 2/3 combo and can be
controlled by large presence of
water
[Robert's reply]
Fire is the correct element to emply here because 1 weak water is an
auspicious star, while strong wood requires Fire to deduce the influence.
Questions:
FIRE and WATER seem contradictory. Which is the
right one?
[Robert's reply]

What so contradictory about it? Water destroy Fire, but Fire destroy Metal.
------> What I meant by contradictory refers to the different cure proposed by Theory 1 (Use Fire) and Theory 2 (Use Water). Here again, the source of theory 2 comes from pg. 62 of LT's Flying Star Feng Shui (similar here, as she was concentrating on the base 2 water 3 combination)
------> There are very limited books I could find on Flying Star. I've got two, both from LT: Chinese Numerology and Flying Star Feng Shui. After reading them, there are several confusing aspects that troubled me, as they either appear incorrect or do not make much sense to me (like those questions I have posted to your forum in previous mails). Thank you so much for indulging my many questions.
Best regards,
Rose

[Robert Lee]

Dear Rose,
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Date: Wednesday, May 26, 1999 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: Which is the correct cure?

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From: "Rose Say"
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On 5/26/99 11:04:18 AM, Anonymous wrote:

Personally, I don't see why you should use water, I think that Metal will
again be the best solution. Because both stars are
inauspicious so the priority is to reduce all inauspicious influence. Where
did you obtain this information?
------> Source of Info: pg 62 of Lillian Too's Flying Star Feng Shui. I
believe she was concentrating on only the base 2 mountain 3 combination.
Isn't thar dangerous to analyze the situation only partially?

Yes, books are like that, they tend to be catered more towards explaining
the analysis. It is actually, and most of the Flying Star teaching also
mentions that the major influences are often the interaction between the
Mountain and Water star. These two stars often changes which brings along
different influences when they meet.
However, the base star is still important for the explanation without the
even the two stars flying star is supposed to represent the sector's general
influence for the 20-year, yearly, monthly etc.
When looking at Flying Star charts, it is important to see the overall
interactions because, eventually what you want to know is what are the
influences of the sector.

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b. South: base 2, mountain 1, water 3
Theory 1: 1(weak water), 3(strong wood)
Need FIRE to weaken wood
Theory 2: consider the 2/3 combo and can be
controlled by large presence of
water
[Robert's reply]
Fire is the correct element to emply here because 1 weak water is an
auspicious star, while strong wood requires Fire to deduce the influence.
Questions:
FIRE and WATER seem contradictory. Which is the
right one?
[Robert's reply]
What so contradictory about it? Water destroy Fire, but Fire destroy Metal.
------> What I meant by contradictory refers to the different cure proposed
by Theory 1 (Use Fire) and Theory 2 (Use Water). Here again, the source of
theory 2 comes from pg. 62 of LT's Flying Star Feng Shui (similar here, as
she was concentrating on the base 2 water 3 combination)
Sorry, personally after I do not follow her books because as mentioned to
Bill in the earier message, her book on the Numerology has lots of errors
and many unclarity. Furthermore, if you noticed many examples from her books
are often contradictory to each other.
------> There are very limited books I could find on Flying Star. I've got
two, both from LT: Chinese Numerology and Flying Star Feng Shui. After
reading them, there are several confusing aspects that troubled me, as they
either appear incorrect or do not make much sense to me (like those
questions I have posted to your forum in previous mails). Thank you so much
for indulging my many questions.

Well, I am not surprised. Flying Star is indeed a very complex theory, which
is why it is taking us some time to come up with the course (and maybe book)
as there are many things and areas to look at.
Warmest Regards
Robert Lee

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Best regards,
Rose
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