After consulting 2 .. Feng Shui Advise

[myfs_97794]

Dear Sir
After consulting 2 feng shui master at home (diffent master)since last year. There isn't any improvement at all.
First consultation, no result and thus the second consultation, things get worse. Subsequently, I was told by one of the master that I need to purchase a $5000 worth of fengshui products from his shop, to improve feng shui effectively.
Need your advise on the following :
1.Can I re-consult Feng Shui again after consulting feng shui expert twice??
2. Is AROWANA suitable for a Water-Tiger element?
Thank you

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Ng,
Please see below:-

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On 11/8/2003 10:09:59 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Sir
After consulting 2 feng shui
master at home (diffent
master)since last year. There
isn't any improvement at all.
First consultation, no result
and thus the second
consultation, things get
worse. Subsequently, I was
told by one of the master that
I need to purchase a $5000
worth of fengshui products
from his shop, to improve feng
shui effectively.
Need your advise on the
following :
1.Can I re-consult Feng Shui
again after consulting feng
shui expert twice??

Here are some considerations:
1. A year ago, this person, e-mailed me, mentioning that he had his home Feng Shuied twice.
He mentioned that this lady FS practitioner came to his home, scribbed some things (did a lousy job), and asked him to follow the instructions. Since, he had hired her, he felt that he had to follow her instructions.
2. Later, he hired, this Feng Shui practitioner. the user mentioned that he did his best, but after the Feng Shui, he faced more problems.
3. I asked him to scan or fax a layout and his landscape plan (street directory) view. I was so "shocked", because, his block and unit was attacked by two schools: one a primary school and another a secondary school.
4. The attack was in the form a the two schools shaped much like a pistol and a shotgun respectively. Here, this is known as `penetrating sha qi'. Cannot see but can be very bad for the people staying in the block.
5. This is because, after I had posted this findings in the forum, 4 more users, had wrote in to me! Telling me that they also faced the same situation!
6. Here, no amount of money or buying whatever figurines can help. And it is no point taking another look even by any other Feng Shui masters.
7. In the past, I had drawn an analogy: If one's house or apartment is equivalent to a second-hand 600 cc car; it is not possible to revv it up to a turbo charged v8 engine car!
8. The saying goes: "Pay for what one gets". Here, taking another view point: if one has a family of 8. How to squeeze into a mini-clubman car? Less we tie two members on the roof top and squeeze one family member into the trunk.
9. Here, more likely we have to buy an MPV vehicle already.
10. I am not saying that your home has this situation. But, no harm to check the exterior for threats. - To be safe or to rule out this situation.
11. Many local Feng Shui practitioners, in my opinion can be quite "academic". Some can draw perfect Flying Star charts, but, do not look beyond the 4 walls of a home.
12. Frankly, one can pathe a house in gold, but all else collapses outside the four walls - what is the use?
13. Within the interior, the few things one can do are:
13.1 Fix as many leaks as possible.
13.2 Hopefully, the two FS `masters' did not bombard your home with too many worthless figurines, wind chimes etc... In a small home such as a HDB apartment, things if all else can get even worse! Too many clutter, is not going to help.
13.3 In my opinion, it is not a matter of whether one can consult another practitioner but rather: "Is it cost effective?" Here, one has already forked out quite a tidy sum paying both.
13.4 And, as mentioned above, realistically, the key success of Feng Shui is to firstly, see if we, humans can harmonise with the home. Especially in the area of health.
13.5 But if one aims to get instant wealth after a Feng Shui audit - think again! This is because, an apartment or flat has much influence coming from the Exterior! Of the home.
14. Or the exterior plays the most important consideration! A `lousy' exterior or lousy shapes and forms -- means, no matter what, one cannot squeeze out more than what the house can or cannot give us.
15. Thus, often we hear the words : Location, location, location.
16. The rich are different: They often have the means to get choicest locations/ landed property etc... And for many, not only are their homes good;
What this means is that a home should not only have good or favourable Feng Shui, but it also has the ability to `suck' wealth from it's surroundings or neighbours!
Here, let the neighbours work hard and one sits there to collect the `spoils'. This is known as "Quantum Leap" in Feng Shui. And few can afford this! Or by luck.

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2. Is AROWANA suitable for a
Water-Tiger element?

Under the Practise of Water Feng Shui, the best success is either thru the identification of a location that favours a water position or water star position. And this can only be looked at thru the proper use of Flying Star Feng Shui.
The other consideration is thru Shapes and Forms Feng Shui.
As to the "Water-Tiger element" - frankly, this is even proper Ba zi analysis.
Under proper Ba zi analysis, one should be able to identify to the lowest common denominator: The Five elements concept.
For example, if you had mentioned: I am a strong water or weak water or strong earth or weak earth. This makes more sense. The term `water-tiger' especially based only on the year of birth - is too superficial to be of any use.
More importantly, a water position can be a double edged sword: If placed wrongly, bring more problems. Or worse, if it is not favourable to one's element, this is really bad. Arowana or no arowana. Gold, red or silver arowana, does not matter. Most likely, (I do not like to sound cruel) may end up on the dinner table.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[myfs_97794]

Thank you for the prompt reply and I really appreciate your advise. My intention is to have a re-aduit on my home once again but like what you have mentioned the exterior factor. Can I request to fax you a layout and landscape plan for your advise whether it's visible to conduct another re-aduit. Thank you.

[myfs_88310]

Dear Master Cecil:
I saw your reply to Ng: "a home should not only have good or favourable Feng Shui, but it also has the ability to `suck' wealth from it's surroundings or neighbours!"
What kind of traits/situating of a house has the ability to 'suck' wealth from it's surroundings or neighbors?
Regards,
Jen

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On 11/9/2003 6:57:16 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Ng,
Please see below:-
On 11/8/2003 10:09:59 PM, Ng Nghe Kwang
wrote:
Dear Sir
After consulting 2 feng shui
master at home (diffent
master)since last year. There
isn't any improvement at all.
First consultation, no result
and thus the second
consultation, things get
worse. Subsequently, I was
told by one of the master that
I need to purchase a $5000
worth of fengshui products
from his shop, to improve feng
shui effectively.
Need your advise on the
following :
1.Can I re-consult Feng Shui
again after consulting feng
shui expert twice??
Here are some considerations:
1. A year ago, this person, e-mailed me,
mentioning that he had his home Feng
Shuied twice.
He mentioned that this lady FS
practitioner came to his home, scribbed
some things (did a lousy job), and asked
him to follow the instructions. Since,
he had hired her, he felt that he had to
follow her instructions.
2. Later, he hired, this Feng Shui
practitioner. the user mentioned that he
did his best, but after the Feng Shui,
he faced more problems.
3. I asked him to scan or fax a layout
and his landscape plan (street
directory) view. I was so "shocked",
because, his block and unit was attacked
by two schools: one a primary school and
another a secondary school.
4. The attack was in the form a the two
schools shaped much like a pistol and a
shotgun respectively. Here, this is
known as `penetrating sha qi'. Cannot
see but can be very bad for the people
staying in the block.
5. This is because, after I had posted
this findings in the forum, 4 more
users, had wrote in to me! Telling me
that they also faced the same situation!
6. Here, no amount of money or buying
whatever figurines can help. And it is
no point taking another look even by any
other Feng Shui masters.
7. In the past, I had drawn an analogy:
If one's house or apartment is
equivalent to a second-hand 600 cc car;
it is not possible to revv it up to a
turbo charged v8 engine car!
8. The saying goes: "Pay for what one
gets". Here, taking another view point:
if one has a family of 8. How to squeeze
into a mini-clubman car? Less we tie two
members on the roof top and squeeze one
family member into the trunk.
9. Here, more likely we have to buy an
MPV vehicle already.
10. I am not saying that your home has
this situation. But, no harm to check
the exterior for threats. - To be safe
or to rule out this situation.
11. Many local Feng Shui practitioners,
in my opinion can be quite "academic".
Some can draw perfect Flying Star
charts, but, do not look beyond the 4
walls of a home.
12. Frankly, one can pathe a house in
gold, but all else collapses outside the
four walls - what is the use?
13. Within the interior, the few things
one can do are:
13.1 Fix as many leaks as possible.
13.2 Hopefully, the two FS `masters' did
not bombard your home with too many
worthless figurines, wind chimes etc...
In a small home such as a HDB apartment,
things if all else can get even worse!
Too many clutter, is not going to help.
13.3 In my opinion, it is not a matter
of whether one can consult another
practitioner but rather: "Is it cost
effective?" Here, one has already forked
out quite a tidy sum paying both.
13.4 And, as mentioned above,
realistically, the key success of Feng
Shui is to firstly, see if we, humans
can harmonise with the home. Especially
in the area of health.
13.5 But if one aims to get instant
wealth after a Feng Shui audit - think
again! This is because, an apartment or
flat has much influence coming from the
Exterior! Of the home.
14. Or the exterior plays the most
important consideration! A `lousy'
exterior or lousy shapes and forms --
means, no matter what, one cannot
squeeze out more than what the house can
or cannot give us.
15. Thus, often we hear the words :
Location, location, location.
16. The rich are different: They often
have the means to get choicest
locations/ landed property etc... And
for many, not only are their homes good;
What this means is that a home should
not only have good or favourable Feng
Shui, but it also has the ability to
`suck' wealth from it's surroundings or
neighbours!
Here, let the neighbours work hard and
one sits there to collect the `spoils'.
This is known as "Quantum Leap" in Feng
Shui. And few can afford this! Or by
luck.
2. Is AROWANA suitable for a
Water-Tiger element?
Under the Practise of Water Feng Shui,
the best success is either thru the
identification of a location that
favours a water position or water star
position. And this can only be looked at
thru the proper use of Flying Star Feng
Shui.
The other consideration is thru Shapes
and Forms Feng Shui.
As to the "Water-Tiger element" -
frankly, this is even proper Ba zi
analysis.
Under proper Ba zi analysis, one should
be able to identify to the lowest common
denominator: The Five elements concept.
For example, if you had mentioned: I am
a strong water or weak water or strong
earth or weak earth. This makes more
sense. The term `water-tiger' especially
based only on the year of birth - is too
superficial to be of any use.
More importantly, a water position can
be a double edged sword: If placed
wrongly, bring more problems. Or worse,
if it is not favourable to one's
element, this is really bad. Arowana or
no arowana. Gold, red or silver arowana,
does not matter. Most likely, (I do not
like to sound cruel) may end up on the
dinner table.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mr Ng,
You can fax the layout and landscape plan to my company fax no: 64820570
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 11/10/2003 8:17:16 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Thank you for the prompt reply
and I really appreciate your
advise. My intention is to
have a re-aduit on my home
once again but like what you
have mentioned the exterior
factor. Can I request to fax
you a layout and landscape
plan for your advise whether
it's visible to conduct
another re-aduit. Thank you.

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mr Ng,
Thank you for your fax copy of your layout plan.
Based purely (alone) on Shapes and Forms Feng Shui, there are several major leaks and sub-leaks:-
1. Major Leaks:-
1.1 Shared toilet
=================
Your shared toilet is at the centrepoint or (centre-of-gravity).
This toilet is also close to/next to the main entrance.
1.2 The entire interior layout
==============================
Qi flow from the mouth of the house (main entrance) is not harmonious in relation to the master bedroom door and living room area. (Based on the blank layout plan). If a partition is used, it should screen the master bedroom door. But becareful of the use of a screen anywhere else in the home.
1.3 The master bedroom toilet
=============================
This is another toilet which is in an inauspicious Shapes and Forms position.
1.4 Top down view of each block
===============================
Unlike a rectangular point-block, each block has an awakward shape - and this affects the flow of qi coming into your unit.
1.5 External shapes and forms
=============================
Inauspicious Road movement (symbolic of virtual water movement) vis-a-vis very low floor and a circular radiating feature (boomerang or disk effect) sending sha qi.
1.6 Water position
==================
Based on a preliminary glimpse, you have to be extra careful if you are placing a water feature at the living room area (especially at NW direction - metal direction which could inadvertently exhaust good metal - making things to nought). On a Shapes and Forms analysis, water may not be compatible with a NW metal area. But, I am just guessing. But, perhaps, a Flying star analysis may be different - if, there is a #8 water star at the living room area. If so, water can be used to activate `wealth'.
2. Frankly, based on just the Shapes and Forms Feng Shui, there are more than 1 major leak. And often, based on my past experience, wealth is difficult to retain.
3. Your question was that you like to know where is the best location to place your fish tank.
3.1 If you can let me have you and your wife's date and time of birth, I can check for you whether (firstly) you are suitable for a water position or not.
3.2 For example, in a senario where e.g. husband is a strong water person and wife is a strong wood person - water can bring with it more problems etc.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil
P.S. without your permission, I have not posted a copy of the interior layout plan. But, if given the permission, I can post only the interior layout plan - with comments - and protect your privacy by not showing the external layout.

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On 11/11/2003 12:01:33 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Mr Ng,
You can fax the layout and
landscape plan to my company
fax no: 64820570
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[myfs_97794]

Thank you Master Cecil for your valuable comments. So is there any possible cure all the leak?. I would wish to re-audit my home again in DEC'03, it's possible?
Master, regard to the birth date and time it's possible by faxing to you.My concern is that I just place a deposit for a Arowana, if it's not suitable for any fish tank to be place at the living room then I have to cancel the order.
In addition, I would really prefer and appreciate if the floor plan can be fax to me with comments.
Once again, thank you for your kind advice and prompt comments. I must give credit that this is the BEST FENG SHUI site I come across.
Warmest Regards
Mr Ng

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On 11/12/2003 3:50:20 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Mr Ng,
Thank you for your fax copy of
your layout plan.
Based purely (alone) on Shapes
and Forms Feng Shui, there are
several major leaks and
sub-leaks:-
1. Major Leaks:-
1.1 Shared toilet
=================
Your shared toilet is at the
centrepoint or
(centre-of-gravity).
This toilet is also close
to/next to the main entrance.
1.2 The entire interior layout
==============================
Qi flow from the mouth of the
house (main entrance) is not
harmonious in relation to the
master bedroom door and living
room area. (Based on the blank
layout plan). If a partition
is used, it should screen the
master bedroom door. But
becareful of the use of a
screen anywhere else in the
home.
1.3 The master bedroom toilet
=============================
This is another toilet which
is in an inauspicious Shapes
and Forms position.
1.4 Top down view of each
block
==============================
=
Unlike a rectangular
point-block, each block has an
awakward shape - and this
affects the flow of qi coming
into your unit.
1.5 External shapes and forms
=============================
Inauspicious Road movement
(symbolic of virtual water
movement) vis-a-vis very low
floor and a circular radiating
feature (boomerang or disk
effect) sending sha qi.
1.6 Water position
==================
Based on a preliminary
glimpse, you have to be extra
careful if you are placing a
water feature at the living
room area (especially at NW
direction - metal direction
which could inadvertently
exhaust good metal - making
things to nought). On a Shapes
and Forms analysis, water may
not be compatible with a NW
metal area. But, I am just
guessing. But, perhaps, a
Flying star analysis may be
different - if, there is a #8
water star at the living room
area. If so, water can be used
to activate `wealth'.
2. Frankly, based on just the
Shapes and Forms Feng Shui,
there are more than 1 major
leak. And often, based on my
past experience, wealth is
difficult to retain.
3. Your question was that you
like to know where is the best
location to place your fish
tank.
3.1 If you can let me have you
and your wife's date and time
of birth, I can check for you
whether (firstly) you are
suitable for a water position
or not.
3.2 For example, in a senario
where e.g. husband is a strong
water person and wife is a
strong wood person - water can
bring with it more problems
etc.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil
P.S. without your permission,
I have not posted a copy of
the interior layout plan. But,
if given the permission, I can
post only the interior layout
plan - with comments - and
protect your privacy by not
showing the external layout.
On 11/11/2003 12:01:33 AM, Cecil Lee
wrote:
Dear Mr Ng,
You can fax the layout and
landscape plan to my company
fax no: 64820570
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mr Ng,
1. Yes, you can quickly fax to me or privately e-mail : support@geomancy.net you and your wife's date of birth.
2. In your case, since there are many major leaks, try to fix as many leaks as possible (those that can be fixed). Hopefully, your home is not cluttered with too many "figurines" off-loaded by the various practitioners.
3. If there are `cures' in place especially other water positions or large objects e.g. a crystal cave etc... sometimes, this can make the situation worse-off - if they are placed in the wrong sectors.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 11/12/2003 5:11:13 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Thank you Master Cecil for
your valuable comments. So is
there any possible cure all
the leak?. I would wish to
re-audit my home again in
DEC'03, it's possible?
Master, regard to the birth
date and time it's possible by
faxing to you.My concern is
that I just place a deposit
for a Arowana, if it's not
suitable for any fish tank to
be place at the living room
then I have to cancel the
order.
In addition, I would really
prefer and appreciate if the
floor plan can be fax to me
with comments.
Once again, thank you for your
kind advice and prompt
comments. I must give credit
that this is the BEST FENG
SHUI site I come across.
Warmest Regards
Mr Ng
On 11/12/2003 3:50:20 AM, Cecil Lee
wrote:
Dear Mr Ng,
Thank you for your fax copy of
your layout plan.
Based purely (alone) on Shapes
and Forms Feng Shui, there are
several major leaks and
sub-leaks:-
1. Major Leaks:-
1.1 Shared toilet
=================
Your shared toilet is at the
centrepoint or
(centre-of-gravity).
This toilet is also close
to/next to the main entrance.
1.2 The entire interior layout
==============================
Qi flow from the mouth of the
house (main entrance) is not
harmonious in relation to the
master bedroom door and living
room area. (Based on the blank
layout plan). If a partition
is used, it should screen the
master bedroom door. But
becareful of the use of a
screen anywhere else in the
home.
1.3 The master bedroom toilet
=============================
This is another toilet which
is in an inauspicious Shapes
and Forms position.
1.4 Top down view of each
block
==============================
=
Unlike a rectangular
point-block, each block has an
awakward shape - and this
affects the flow of qi coming
into your unit.
1.5 External shapes and forms
=============================
Inauspicious Road movement
(symbolic of virtual water
movement) vis-a-vis very low
floor and a circular radiating
feature (boomerang or disk
effect) sending sha qi.
1.6 Water position
==================
Based on a preliminary
glimpse, you have to be extra
careful if you are placing a
water feature at the living
room area (especially at NW
direction - metal direction
which could inadvertently
exhaust good metal - making
things to nought). On a Shapes
and Forms analysis, water may
not be compatible with a NW
metal area. But, I am just
guessing. But, perhaps, a
Flying star analysis may be
different - if, there is a #8
water star at the living room
area. If so, water can be used
to activate `wealth'.
2. Frankly, based on just the
Shapes and Forms Feng Shui,
there are more than 1 major
leak. And often, based on my
past experience, wealth is
difficult to retain.
3. Your question was that you
like to know where is the best
location to place your fish
tank.
3.1 If you can let me have you
and your wife's date and time
of birth, I can check for you
whether (firstly) you are
suitable for a water position
or not.
3.2 For example, in a senario
where e.g. husband is a strong
water person and wife is a
strong wood person - water can
bring with it more problems
etc.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil
P.S. without your permission,
I have not posted a copy of
the interior layout plan. But,
if given the permission, I can
post only the interior layout
plan - with comments - and
protect your privacy by not
showing the external layout.
On 11/11/2003 12:01:33 AM, Cecil Lee
wrote:
Dear Mr Ng,
You can fax the layout and
landscape plan to my company
fax no: 64820570
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Mr Ng,
I have already privately e-mailed you with my frank comments and several reports for you to understand better your Heaven Luck (which is adding to your woes).
Please note that since you are considered a weak metal person, having a fish tank can be a double edged sword - if especially the location for it is wrong - athough, it can still be used for a weak metal person.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Jen,
Please go thru some of the resources here:-
House Hunting: Can or Cannot buy?
http://www.geomancy.net/products/po-hunting/po-hunting-faq.htm
In fact, many times I have been taken advantaged of with regards to the above.
For example, in the past, I had to literally `put-down' every other work to help these people. The faster I help analyse each case, it does not seem to be appreciated.
What's more, often I hear of "threats" - The agent says, I must confirm OR ELSE..
In fact, there were many cases where some clients (I did for free) literally - gave me the entire development's plans and help them find good choice units. One even asked me could I identify good housing board units in "Choa Chu Kang estate".
Wow, nowadays, given the perpertual abuse, I decided not to do it for free, already. "A thankless job":(
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 11/10/2003 9:19:39 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Dear Master Cecil:
I saw your reply to Ng: "a
home should not only have good
or favourable Feng Shui, but
it also has the ability to
`suck' wealth from it's
surroundings or neighbours!"
What kind of traits/situating
of a house has the ability to
'suck' wealth from it's
surroundings or neighbors?
Regards,
Jen