Hi, I am beginner in Bazi calculation. May I check the following: From the 4 pillars eight characters, it seems to me that the total number of elements are only eight (4 Heavenly stems and 4 earthly Branches). However, most of the geomancers' calculation has more than 8 elements (i.e. 4 Wood, 3 Metal, 2 Fire etc.). Have I missed out anything that I comprehend wrongly from the book? Desmond