Timezones True to the SUN, or not

[myfs_149742]

color:black;mso-ansi-language:EN-US">Good dayMaster Lee,
The times zones that arenotsync.
with theangular radiusof the sun are they relevant for a true
moment of birth? (relevant for a true moment of birth based on the SUN)
Should l make a new premium orderfor the
true solar hour of birth?
What is a reasonable thing to do, let me put
that in front...
The hour (when i was born) that is lining up with the
country's layingparallel.
That could lead to, that i need to take one hour off my moment of birth! (For some country's its even more out of line)
Those country's that atleastalignup withthefocus point of the sun. If Idivide the
earth in 24 straightzones then my country will
end up in one of those zones and that is where(compared to the messy original timezone map) where my
true hour of birthshould be.
I believe we need beside the industrialtime
zones, biologicaltime zones.
And if not than what is relevant to do? Nothing?
Am happy with what I have gained, my luck is
already improving!
Yours sincere,
Richard

[Cecil Lee]

Frankly, since you are so interested in this area, go dwell scientificallyfurther intoit.
You also forgot that the Chinese hours are 2 hourly: 11 to 1, 1 to 3 etc...

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Good dayMaster
Lee,
The times zones that
arenotsync.
with theangular
radiusof the sun are
they relevant for a true
moment of birth? (relevant for
a true moment of birth based
on the SUN)
Should l make a new premium
orderfor the
true solar hour of birth?
What
is a reasonable thing to do,
let me put
that in
front...&nbs
p;The hour (when i was born)
that is lining up with the
country's
layingparallel.That
could lead to, that i need to
take one hour off my moment of
birth! (For some country's its
even more out of
line) &
nbsp;Those country's that
atleastalign
up withthefocus
point of the sun. If
Idivide the
earth in 24
straig
htzones then my country
will
end up in one of those zones
and that is
where (
compared to the messy original
timezone map) where my
true hour of birthshould
be.
I believe we need beside the
industrialtime
zones, biologicaltime
zones.


And if not than what is
relevant to do? Nothing?
Am happy with what I have
gained, my luck is
already improving!
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Yours sincere,
Richard

[myfs_149742]

Goodday master Lee,
I agree its something thatcouldbe invetigated scientifically, but that is not in my power, or education.
And I was not awarethe daily chineze time was compressing 2hours in 1 hour (as we use in the west).
I will deal with it myself, its something that has to do with my own identity. Because theneed to be aware what is reasonable in my own country, has nothing to do withthe calculations of the charts thatare perfectly right (in where theagreement of a certain timezone is being used) I do understand. Thank you and much respect.
Yours sincere,
Richard

[Cecil Lee]

I am very glad that you understand, now that putting up superfical talk on the subject in relation to all "western" talk or noises is not the best way to go.
As it will further confuse many others reading it.
Thus, unless one can claim to be an expert in this field and perhaps write adoctoral thesis that benefit mankind.. in Singapore, our current president has termed this simply"noises". What people want are facts not noises.

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On 8/3/2011 6:55:27 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Goodday master Lee,I agree its
something
thatcouldbe
invetigated scientifically,
but that is not in my power,
or education.And I was not
awarethe daily chineze
time was compressing 2hours in
1 hour (as we use in the
west). I will deal with it
myself, its something that has
to do with my own identity.
Because theneed to be
aware what is reasonable in my
own country, has nothing to do
withthe calculations of
the charts thatare
perfectly right (in where
theagreement of a
certain timezone is being
used) I do understand. Thank
you and much respect.Yours
sincere,Richard

[myfs_149742]

Okey, It is clear, excuses for the confusion.My intentions where good, I was honest about something I doubted, i hope u understand.
Geomancy.net is the best communityI everfaced in my life, for cultural Identity directions that can be apllied in life.The layer of awarenes that implicates a certain basefor people to functionat full potential, is being activated once people areinformed of the feng shui theories.That is allI can sayas an Art student.
once again
Best regards andgood luck!

[Cecil Lee]

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[Cecil Lee]

Is the use of Greenwich Meridian Time (GMT) necessary in Ba Zi?
APPLYING LOCATION FACTOR INTO BA ZI

1. In truth, the incorporation of TIME ZONE or LOCATION factors by contemporary practitioners is a modern adaptation that was not part of the original Ba Zi system developed in China.

2. The sole correct method from a technical standpoint is to incorporate the LOCATION factor into the Chinese Lunar Calendar. However, this approach presents two issues: -

a) A slight deviation of 0.01 degree in either latitude or longitude can significantly alter your Ba Zi chart. This minute error has the potential to decrease the accuracy of your chart, making it less reliable than a chart with an unknown hour pillar.

b) The majority of individuals do not possess their time of birth, let alone the precise location of birth. Therefore, why make the matter more complex.

3. Using GMT time zone is a bad way to apply the location factor, because GMT time zone only affects the longitude changes. Furthermore, GMT has been simplified so much so it is no longer as accurate as in the past.

4. Our stand on this issue is NOT to add these level of complication to the analysis. Meaning that you should just use your local time (regardless of what country), to analyse the Ba Zi.  

This is because if you truly understand how the Ba Zi works, the HOUR pillar will not make a major impact in terms of the 10-yearly, 5-yearly, yearly and monthly luck pillars.  

The hour pillar gives additional pillars available for combinations and clashes, so this can affect the final outcome of a person to be either weak or strong. A day without the hour will give the rough element strength of the day. Only a few hours may result in weak/strong element. Otherwise, not much change will occur. Your luck pillars will not be too badly influenced by the hour impact. Except for minor yearly and chart clash or harms that may occur. But these are minor as your general luck will not alter too much.  

5. This is why we can still analyse a person luck fairly well even if you do not provide the hour pillar. Just check out some of the masters who had done case study of famous people, you will noticed that they do it just with the date of birth. They don't even apply any location factor.  

Ba zi has designed to compensate from the lack of the hour pillar. So with or without the hour of birth, a person's chart can still be charted out. Just that with the hour pillar, your forecast will be more accurate.  

6. This is why we find no need to apply location into the Ba Zi. Just use your local time and it should be okay.  

7. You must always remember that a Ba Zi is supposed to be a heavenly GIVEN chart of what kind of luck you are supposed to have assuming your environment remains constant. This means it does not consider education, your house (earth luck), people around you, your career etc.  

However, in real life, how can you expect your environment to be the same all the time. Your luck is always being altered by your house luck, people around you, and your career.  

Let me give you some example:-

a. Given a pair of twins with the exact date and time of birth. One has primary education and one has a doctorate degree. Which you think will have better life. Most likely the one with a doctorate degree.  

b. Given a same pair of twins. One stays in US and one stays in IRAQ. Which will you think will have a better life. Again most likely US as it is more stable and peaceful, as compared to a war torn country such as IRAQ.  

c. Given two persons:-  

• Person A has the 10-year luck favourable to him, but he stays in a house with entrapped Feng Shui and death suitability to the home.
• Person B has the 10-year luck unfavourable to him, but he says in a house with excellent Feng Shui and prosperity suitability to the home.

 

The Person B will have actually a much better luck then person A. Cos, a person's earth luck has been ADVERSELY impacted which supercedes his Ba Zi luck. 

8. Ba Zi is not a tool that can predict all past events with complete accuracy. Instead, it can offer insights into potential challenges, enabling you to enhance your fortune by steering clear of unfavorable periods. Some contemporary practitioners may lead you to believe that Ba Zi can provide precise evaluations of your past and future experiences. However, this contradicts the fundamental purpose of the concept, which is to offer guidance on your innate luck.

9. Our recommendation to you is to simply keep the hour unknown or unchanged as it is not required.

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Born which year and what was the changed time? LOL-:)

"Singapore has changed time zones 6 times since 1905. From 1933 to 1941, we moved our clocks forward 20 minutes for daylight savings, but then changed it to 30 minutes.

During the Japanese occupation in World War II, our clocks were synced with Tokyo, to become 1 hour and 30 minutes ahead of the previous time zone. The most recent switch was in 1982, when our clocks were synchronised with neighbouring Malaysia." [Source & Credit: Gov.sg Factually SG50 Edition: Fun facts about our "little red dot"!]