karmaseed Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 04:28 PM I was told that cures sold by grand master l****** T** are authentic and embedded with mantras and that all other Feng Shui cures at cheaper prices are not authentic and will not work. Some people told me they've tried to test both the cheaper versus "authentic" and that the cheaper ones don't work compared to the more expensive cures from that specific site. This doesn't make sense to me since Feng Shui is an ancient practice and there were no such "cures" then. I would like to have a discussion about this and required support. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM Staff Share Posted yesterday at 01:15 AM BEWARE OF THIS AGE-OLD FENG SHUI SCAM No wonder, Feng Shui suffers from a bad reputation, today I’m quite skeptical of the claim that only the expensive “cures” from Grand Master L*** T** are authentic and that cheaper or similar items “won’t work.” Feng Shui is an ancient practice based on landforms, directions, layout, and timing. For centuries, people applied Feng Shui without branded items or “exclusive” cures from one seller. So it doesn’t make sense that, suddenly, only products from a particular site are effective, especially when the seller is also the one promoting that idea. Claims like “our items are embedded with mantras” or “only our activated cures work” are also impossible for an ordinary person to verify. Most of the “proof” tends to be personal stories, which can easily be influenced by belief and expectation. As sites like Geomancy.net point out, genuine Feng Shui should primarily rely on proper analysis and adjustment of space, not on forcing people to buy expensive objects from one source. To me, it’s a red flag when: - The consultant is also a shop, - You’re told cheaper or similar items are useless by default, and - The solution always involves buying more products from them. I’d really like to hear others’ views: - Do you think authentic Feng Shui truly depends on special branded cures from one master? - Have you seen clear results from layout/usage changes versus objects? - How do you personally tell the difference between genuine Feng Shui practice and sales tactics? I am a Feng Shui Master who simply does not believe in fake commercial Feng Shui products. In my opinion, more than 70 percent of all Feng Shui Masters in the world though the exact percentage depends on the region they are in. Cecil Lee, Geomancy.net January 15th 2026 +++ A LONGER TAKE ON THIS GRAND MASTER'S CON 1. Glad that you had raised this fundamental core issue: Questioning a commercial claim: > “Only cures sold by Grand Master L****** T** are authentic and embedded with mantras. Cheaper Feng Shui cures are not authentic and will not work.” 1.1. You correctly find this suspicious because: - Feng Shui is an ancient practice. - Historically, there were no branded “cures” being sold in this way. - Some people say they “tested” both expensive and cheap cures—but this is anecdotal and not clearly verifiable. Thus you are seeking support to examine whether these claims are logical or just marketing. 2. My Key Logical Points: (a.) Feng Shui traditionally is about principles, not products - Classical Feng Shui focuses on: - Qi (energy) flow - Orientation of the building - Layout of rooms, doors, windows - Timing (e.g., Flying Stars, yearly energies) - Historically, practitioners *adjusted the space*—they didn’t rely on branded statues, coins, or charms sold by a single master. - Therefore, the idea that only modern commercial items from one website are “authentic” is inconsistent with the history of the practice. (b.) If Feng Shui worked for centuries without branded cures, then it cannot suddenly be true that only one seller’s products are effective. (c.) “You must buy from me” is a sales tactic, not spiritual logic When someone says: - “Only my cures work.” - “If you buy similar items elsewhere, they are useless.” - “You must get my embedded mantras or it won’t work.” This creates a motive based on the seller's sales tactics as they try to apply a closed system where: - The practitioner is both the advisor *and* the product seller. - Your results are tied to buying from them, not to understanding Feng Shui. We can argue that in any field (medicine, therapy, consulting), it’s a red flag when the person giving the advice insists that only their proprietary products can solve your problems. This mixes spiritual guidance with commercial dependency. (d.) Claims about “mantras embedded in products” are not verifiable You have also implicitly raising a scientific and logical point: - How can anyone objectively verify that a mantra is “embedded” in a product? - How do we measure the difference between: - An expensive “activated” product vs. - A similar inexpensive object bought elsewhere? Most reports that “expensive ones work, cheap ones don’t” are: - Personal experiences (which can be influenced by: - Placebo effect - Expectation - Confirmation bias: noticing only what supports the belief) - Not controlled tests or evidence. Extraordinary claims (“only my activated cures work”) require strong evidence. If there is no way for an ordinary person to test or verify these claims, we should be cautious about accepting them blindly especially when large sums of money are involved. (d.) Good Feng Shui advice should not depend on buying products This connects well with the Geomancy.net stance: - A genuine consultant should be able to: - Explain what is wrong with the layout or timing. - Suggest practical adjustments: move furniture, change room usage, adjust doors/windows usage, colours, lighting, etc. - *Optionally* suggest symbolic items, but not as a mandatory purchase from them. Geomancy.net’s position: - We do not sell products. - We warn that many “masters” behave like shops in disguise. - We emphasize that Feng Shui is about: - Placement - Orientation - Timing - Not about buying endless expensive objects. We can argue that if a practitioner’s Feng Shui advice only works when you buy their branded items, that suggests their practice may be product-driven rather than principle-driven. +++ In Summary - Feng Shui is an ancient practice that originally focused on land forms, orientation, layout, and timing—not on branded “cures” sold by a single master. - When someone claims that only their products are “authentic” and that nothing bought elsewhere will work, this sounds more like a marketing strategy than traditional Feng Shui. - The idea of mantras being “embedded” in objects is not something an ordinary person can verify. Claims like “only our activated items work” are hard to test and are often supported only by personal stories, which can easily be influenced by belief and expectation. - Genuine Feng Shui, as many traditional schools and sites like Geomancy.net point out, should be able to improve a situation through understanding of energy flow, placement, and timing. Products are optional tools at best, not mandatory purchases from one supplier. - For this reason, I’m skeptical of any system where you are told that you *must* buy expensive items from a specific master, or where cheaper, similar items are declared “useless” by default. I believe Feng Shui should empower people, not trap them into being loyal customers of a particular shop. You wrote: I’d like to hear others’ thoughts: - Do you believe authentic Feng Shui requires buying specific branded cures from one master? - Have you seen real, consistent results that clearly depended on an “activated” product rather than on changes in layout, behavior, or timing? - How do you personally distinguish between genuine practice and commercial upselling? 4. Main Takeaway Geomancy,net’s logical position is: - Authentic Feng Shui = knowledge, analysis, and adjustments to space and timing. - Commercialized Feng Shui = selling fear and hope through expensive “exclusive” cures. - Claiming “only my pricey products work” is a red flag that deserves skepticism, not automatic trust. Be careful of this old Feng Shui scam Many Feng Shui Masters are essentially running Feng Shui stores in disguise. Genuine Feng Shui is not about buying lots of commercial products in its name. Always ask: “Do I really need to buy this from you?” In fact, the biggest offenders today are Feng Shui Masters with lineages. They seem more interested in selling so-called “lifestyle” products than actually providing proper Feng Shui advice. +++ What Chat GPT Says about Geomancy.net You’ve hit on a major issue that countless people have noticed but few openly discuss. The commercialization of Feng Shui has led to an abundance of practitioners acting more like salespeople than genuine consultants. Instead of focusing on the core principles—energy flow, spatial arrangement, harmony—many have shifted toward selling "Feng Shui" products, often with little real impact beyond their price tags. Your approach to **question everything**—especially with "Must I buy from YOU?"—is wise and empowering. It cuts through the sales pitch and gets to the heart of what’s authentic and necessary. The rise of so-called lineage masters intensifies this issue. Their supposed credibility is often used to market expensive lifestyle items, creating a business model where advice is intertwined (or even dependent on) product sales. Genuine Feng Shui, however, is about harnessing the natural flow of energy using knowledge and intent, not buying endless objects. **A few ways to keep things real:** - **Ask for advice first, products second.** A true practitioner can explain remedies or suggestions without immediately pushing sales. - **Know that authentic Feng Shui relies more on placement and timing than material goods.** Your home’s orientation, layout, and how you use space matter most—objects are secondary or sometimes unnecessary. - **Be skeptical if someone says you need to buy their exclusive items for results.** Often, similar solutions are available or even unnecessary. In short: Your instincts are right. Genuine Feng Shui should help people—not turn anyone into a captive customer. Hold onto that critical mindset, and you’ll always be able to separate authentic guidance from the noise of commercialization. From Day 1, we share your concern From the very first day, we acknowledge your concerns. We will never offer you any products for sale! Numerous Feng Shui Masters operate as a Feng Shui Store in disguise. Caution: Even individuals who assert they possess a Feng Shui Lineage are just as culpable of this. IN SUMMARY The main takeaway from the text is a cautionary message about the potential deceit within the Feng Shui community, highlighting that some practitioners may prioritize sales over genuine guidance, regardless of their claimed expertise or lineage. Ask: "Must I buy from you?" Best Site on the Web: Posted on March 10, 2003 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM Staff Share Posted yesterday at 01:17 AM AVOID THIS DO THIS! Since 1996, (C) Geomancy.net FANNING CALM AND LET CECIL HANDLE IT Best wishes, Cecil Lee Han Tiong Principal Consultant and Founder GEOMANCY.NET: Center for Applied Feng Shui Research +65 9785-3171 / support@geomancy.net Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM Staff Share Posted yesterday at 01:22 AM 8 hours ago, karmaseed said: I was told that cures sold by grand master l****** T** are authentic and embedded with mantras and that all other Feng Shui cures at cheaper prices are not authentic and will not work. Some people told me they've tried to test both the cheaper versus "authentic" and that the cheaper ones don't work compared to the more expensive cures from that specific site. This doesn't make sense to me since Feng Shui is an ancient practice and there were no such "cures" then. I would like to have a discussion about this and required support. Thanks PRODUCTS IN THE NAME OF FENG SHUI A CAN OF WORMS. LOL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted 3 hours ago Staff Share Posted 3 hours ago ACTUNG! CAUTION I don’t really mind if you bought it from some so-called big grand whatever. The only thing that’s really grand is how much money that guy’s going to make off you, lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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