Difference between Eight House and Ba Zi

[myfs_53812]

Hello Cecil, I read nearly every section of your site, finding it very interesting and useful. I tried to fix my appartment, even though I just have a rent, but now I have a doubt. I thought that the Eight House Report, connected with the Gua Number and Element, was the most importan thing on which I had to base the distribution of rooms in the house. The more, I thought that the Gua Element was the one who influenced the relations betwen people (I was born on the 19th of May 1968, Gua nr. 1, element Water). Now I read my Ba Zi Report an see that my element is Weak Earth. To which of the two should I give more importance? Can you please clarify me the difference between the two and in which case should I give importance ti one or to the other? I thank you really much for the informations you freely give about feng shui, Giulia

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Carpazia,
I am very glad that you found the information provided here useful:)
1. So long as we understand:
a. the purpose of each concept
b. its strength and weakness
Can we than properly apply all the various concepts confidently.
2.The Eight House Theory is still relevant under the following circumstances:
2.1 How suitable is the house to the owner?
This is the most important feature of this theory.
2.2 It would be a BONUS to sleep in a good sector and an additional bonus if we can also sleep facing a good direction.
2.3 Especially for students, one can seat facing one's good direction.
2.4 Because of the ease of understanding this theory; it can be considered an `introduction' to Feng Shui. Because of its simplicity, many people can confidently, grow with proper applications of Traditional Feng Shui.
3. The major flaw of the Eight House Theory is that:
3.1 It takes consideration, only the year of birth. As opposed to Ba Zi Feng Shui which takes into account Year, Month, Day, Time. And in this site: additional pillars such as House of Life and House of Conception.
3.2 It cannot be related to the common denominator i.e. The Five Elements Concept.
3.3 If one noticed carefully, the Flying Star Theory (Analysing the birth chart of the house) and Ba Zi (Pillars of Destiny) have a common ground i.e. both can be matched to the Five Elements Concept.
3.4 For more experienced students applying Feng Shui; first and foremost know your element and strength i.e. in your case: Weak Earth element.
3.5 Next, apply Flying Star Feng Shui to check for imbalances (if any). For example, if a particular sector e.g. your bedroom has bad earth element and the cure is 6 metal coins.
If you are say a Weak water person, you can harmonise the bedroom (if you are single); add `water' element e.g. paint the walls blue or use `metal' to increase your weak water. (Under the Five elements concept: Metal helps water to grow).
But in your case, since you are a Weak Earth person; it is best to apply Flying Star Feng Shui FIRST. And if a particular sector or sectors have #5 or #2 (bad earth elements);
For example, if your bedroom has bad earth elements and you had placed a metal cure, it would be best not to help your `weak earth' in the bedroom by either adding Fire (Where fire helps earth to grow) or add earth elements.
"Unfortunately" those who are weak earth, has to be particulary careful in increasing your weak earth element (and inadvertenly upsetting the element balance of increasing bad earth in specific sectors).
It would be much easier if one's element and strength is Metal element, Water and Wood. However, for wood element, one has to content with bad wood.
4. Therefore, in order to piece the zig saw puzzle properly, one has to take each step in the right order.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 5/21/01 7:31:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hello Cecil, I read nearly
every section of your site,
finding it very interesting
and useful. I tried to fix my
appartment, even though I just
have a rent, but now I have a
doubt. I thought that the
Eight House Report, connected
with the Gua Number and
Element, was the most importan
thing on which I had to base
the distribution of rooms in
the house. The more, I thought
that the Gua Element was the
one who influenced the
relations betwen people (I was
born on the 19th of May 1968,
Gua nr. 1, element Water). Now
I read my Ba Zi Report an see
that my element is Weak Earth.
To which of the two should I
give more importance? Can you
please clarify me the
difference between the two and
in which case should I give
importance ti one or to the
other? I thank you really much
for the informations you
freely give about feng shui,
Giulia

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Carpazia,
I am very glad that you found the information provided here useful:)
1. So long as we understand:
a. the purpose of each concept
b. its strength and weakness
Can we than properly apply all the various concepts confidently.
2.The Eight House Theory is still relevant under the following circumstances:
2.1 How suitable is the house to the owner?
This is the most important feature of this theory.
2.2 It would be a BONUS to sleep in a good sector and an additional bonus if we can also sleep facing a good direction.
2.3 Especially for students, one can seat facing one's good direction.
2.4 Because of the ease of understanding this theory; it can be considered an `introduction' to Feng Shui. Because of its simplicity, many people can confidently, grow with proper applications of Traditional Feng Shui.
3. The major flaw of the Eight House Theory is that:
3.1 It takes consideration, only the year of birth. As opposed to Ba Zi Feng Shui which takes into account Year, Month, Day, Time. And in this site: additional pillars such as House of Life and House of Conception.
3.2 It cannot be related to the common denominator i.e. The Five Elements Concept.
3.3 If one noticed carefully, the Flying Star Theory (Analysing the birth chart of the house) and Ba Zi (Pillars of Destiny) have a common ground i.e. both can be matched to the Five Elements Concept.
3.4 For more experienced students applying Feng Shui; first and foremost know your element and strength i.e. in your case: Weak Earth element.
3.5 Next, apply Flying Star Feng Shui to check for imbalances (if any). For example, if a particular sector e.g. your bedroom has bad earth element and the cure is 6 metal coins.
If you are say a Weak water person, you can harmonise the bedroom (if you are single); add `water' element e.g. paint the walls blue or use `metal' to increase your weak water. (Under the Five elements concept: Metal helps water to grow).
But in your case, since you are a Weak Earth person; it is best to apply Flying Star Feng Shui FIRST. And if a particular sector or sectors have #5 or #2 (bad earth elements);
For example, if your bedroom has bad earth elements and you had placed a metal cure, it would be best not to help your `weak earth' in the bedroom by either adding Fire (Where fire helps earth to grow) or add earth elements.
"Unfortunately" those who are weak earth, has to be particulary careful in increasing your weak earth element (and inadvertenly upsetting the element balance of increasing bad earth in specific sectors).
It would be much easier if one's element and strength is Metal element, Water and Wood. However, for wood element, one has to content with bad wood.
4. Therefore, in order to piece the zig saw puzzle properly, one has to take each step in the right order.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil

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On 5/21/01 7:31:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hello Cecil, I read nearly
every section of your site,
finding it very interesting
and useful. I tried to fix my
appartment, even though I just
have a rent, but now I have a
doubt. I thought that the
Eight House Report, connected
with the Gua Number and
Element, was the most importan
thing on which I had to base
the distribution of rooms in
the house. The more, I thought
that the Gua Element was the
one who influenced the
relations betwen people (I was
born on the 19th of May 1968,
Gua nr. 1, element Water). Now
I read my Ba Zi Report an see
that my element is Weak Earth.
To which of the two should I
give more importance? Can you
please clarify me the
difference between the two and
in which case should I give
importance ti one or to the
other? I thank you really much
for the informations you
freely give about feng shui,
Giulia

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Carpazia,

Building on what I shared earlier, we can look at the Eight House Theory from another angle by asking ourselves a few simple questions:

1. How suitable is the house for the breadwinner?  
If the main entrance lies in the breadwinner’s “death or disaster intangible force,” then this house is considered the least suitable for the breadwinner.

2. If the house is most unsuitable for the breadwinner, what does that mean?  
It means that, in general, the breadwinner is unlikely to experience a significant “quantum leap” in Feng Shui. However, if the Shapes and Form of the house are excellent (or even exceptionally excellent), this can still create a quantum leap in Feng Shui.

3. If there is no excellent Shapes and Form, it usually means that the breadwinner will not enjoy a quantum leap in Feng Shui, no matter how much he or she tries to “decorate” the house.  
Because of this, I personally feel it’s not wise to spend a lot of money on objects, figurines, and decorations just to gain a very small boost in luck. This is where many of us end up simply trying our luck, for example, by buying many so-called luck-enhancing items in the hope of achieving financial success.

4. It is also very helpful to understand how suitable the house is for the breadwinner.  
This understanding can guide choices such as: Should I buy this new house, or should I move out or sell my current home and perhaps look for a more suitable one?

5. On the other hand, Flying Star Feng Shui is especially useful for reducing or minimizing frequent sickness, misfortune, or accidents. It follows the simple idea that “prevention is better than cure.”

Warmest Regards,
Cecil

 

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On 5/21/01 7:31:00 AM, Anonymous wrote:
Hello Cecil, I read nearly
every section of your site,
finding it very interesting
and useful. I tried to fix my
appartment, even though I just
have a rent, but now I have a
doubt. I thought that the
Eight House Report, connected
with the Gua Number and
Element, was the most importan
thing on which I had to base
the distribution of rooms in
the house. The more, I thought
that the Gua Element was the
one who influenced the
relations betwen people (I was
born on the 19th of May 1968,
Gua nr. 1, element Water). Now
I read my Ba Zi Report an see
that my element is Weak Earth.
To which of the two should I
give more importance? Can you
please clarify me the
difference between the two and
in which case should I give
importance ti one or to the
other? I thank you really much
for the informations you
freely give about feng shui,
Giulia

[Cecil Lee]

A Practical Approach to Feng Shui

 

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The text explains how, in Feng Shui, a house’s suitability for the breadwinner—especially the main entrance and overall Shapes and Form—determines its potential to bring major benefits, emphasizing structural factors over decorative cures and distinguishing Eight House Theory from Flying Star Feng Shui’s preventive role.

 

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Key Takeaways

- If the main entrance falls under the breadwinner’s “death or disaster” direction, the house is considered highly unsuitable for that person.  
- An unsuitable house limits the breadwinner’s chance of a major Feng Shui “quantum leap” in luck or prosperity.  
- Excellent Shapes and Form of the house can still provide strong positive effects, even if the main entrance is unfavorable.  
- Without good Shapes and Form, spending on decorative items or “luck enhancers” yields only marginal improvement and is seen as a poor investment.  
- Understanding a house’s suitability for the breadwinner helps guide major decisions such as buying, selling, or moving.  
- Flying Star Feng Shui is used mainly to prevent or reduce sickness, misfortune, and accidents, following the “prevention is better than cure” principle.