4 Pillars (BaZi)

[myfs_149687]

Hi,
I am beginner in Bazi calculation. May I check the following:
From the 4 pillars eight characters, it seems to me that the total number of elements are only eight (4 Heavenly stems and 4 earthly Branches). However, most of the geomancers' calculation has more than 8 elements (i.e. 4 Wood, 3 Metal, 2 Fire etc.).
Have I missed out anything that I comprehend wrongly from the book?
Desmond

[Cecil Lee]

Further to what I had mentioned; this is a sample of what a SIX (6) PILLAR Chart looks like.

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On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM, Anonymous wrote:
These are some considerations:1. The
standard ba zi calculations or commonly
known as Four pillars:Year
Month Day Hour = Four
pillars (made up of 4 Heavenly
stems and 4Earthly branches).2.
Here, you are correct.3. However,
YangBaZi or ba zi for the
living; there are TWO more pillars:-3.1.
House of Life and3.2. House of
Conception.Again, these two variables
each have their Heavenly stems and
earthly branches.4. Long time ago;
thereare even more such "pillars"
for the dead.5. Thus saying that
bazi is 4 Pillars is too smplistic
approach. For Yang Feng Shui; it can
even be called"SIX pillars!"
etc...5.1. In general House of Life; can
"tell" whether one has an "easy"
or"hard life".5.2. While House of
Conception can be used to look at a
husband and/or wife on the matter of
conceiving a child...6. In general
ifone charts a SUPER-FULL Ba zi
chart it can even be called "EIGHT
PILLARS". Where I had already mentioned
the common six. And the other two more
pillars is associated with the dead or
YIN Bazi.On 4/22/2011
4:05:34 PM, Desmond Loh wrote:
Hi,I
am beginner in Bazi
calculation. May
I check the
following:From the 4
pillars
eight characters, it seems
to
me that the total number of
elements are only eight (4
Heavenly stems and 4 earthly
Branches). However, most of
the
geomancers' calculation
has more
than 8 elements (i.e.
4 Wood, 3
Metal, 2 Fire
etc.).Have I missed
out
anything that I comprehend
wrongly from the book?Desmond

[Cecil Lee]

These are some considerations:
1. The standard ba zi calculations or commonly known as Four pillars:
Year Month Day Hour = Four pillars (made up of 4 Heavenly stems and 4Earthly branches).
2. Here, you are correct.
3. However, YangBaZi or ba zi for the living; there are TWO more pillars:-
3.1. House of Life and
3.2. House of Conception.
Again, these two variables each have their Heavenly stems and earthly branches.
4. Long time ago; thereare even more such "pillars" for the dead.
5. Thus saying that bazi is 4 Pillars is too smplistic approach. For Yang Feng Shui; it can even be called"SIX pillars!" etc...
5.1. In general House of Life; can "tell" whether one has an "easy" or"hard life".
5.2. While House of Conception can be used to look at a husband and/or wife on the matter of conceiving a child...
6. In general ifone charts a SUPER-FULL Ba zi chart it can even be called "EIGHT PILLARS". Where I had already mentioned the common six. And the other two more pillars is associated with the dead or YIN Bazi.

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On 4/22/2011 4:05:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Hi,I am beginner in Bazi
calculation. May I check the
following:From the 4 pillars
eight characters, it seems to
me that the total number of
elements are only eight (4
Heavenly stems and 4 earthly
Branches). However, most of
the geomancers' calculation
has more than 8 elements (i.e.
4 Wood, 3 Metal, 2 Fire
etc.).Have I missed out
anything that I comprehend
wrongly from the book?Desmond

[myfs_149687]

Hi Cecil,
Thank you for your prompt and professional advice.
I was in fact very grateful that you had put in sincere efforts to answer my enquirieswhich was not common in other websites.
I have three dates the gynae gave to me for the delivery of my son. I will need your help in identifying which is the better one. The dates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300), 2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs).
In addition, is it true that a self earth or metal element born in Spring season is generally weak regardless of the chart. (This was quoted in one of the books I read).

Awaiting a favourable reply from you.
Regards
Desmond

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On 4/22/2011 7:18:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:
Further to what I had mentioned; this is
a sample of what a SIX (6) PILLAR Chart
looks like.On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM,
Cecil Lee wrote:
These are some
considerations:1. The
standard ba zi
calculations or commonly
known as
Four pillars:Year
Month
Day Hour = Four
pillars (made up of 4 Heavenly
stems and 4Earthly
branches).2.
Here, you are
correct.3. However,
YangBaZi or ba zi for
the
living; there are TWO more
pillars:-3.1.
House of Life and3.2.
House of
Conception.Again, these two
variables
each have their Heavenly
stems and
earthly branches.4. Long
time ago;
thereare even more
such "pillars"
for the dead.5. Thus
saying that
bazi is 4 Pillars
is too smplistic
approach. For Yang
Feng Shui; it can
even be
called"SIX pillars!"
etc...5.1. In general House of Life;
can
"tell" whether one has an "easy"
or"hard life".5.2. While House
of
Conception can be used to look at
a
husband and/or wife on the matter
of
conceiving a child...6. In
general
ifone charts a
SUPER-FULL Ba zi
chart it can even
be called "EIGHT
PILLARS". Where I
had already mentioned
the common
six. And the other two more
pillars
is associated with the dead or
YIN
Bazi.On 4/22/2011
4:05:34 PM, Desmond Loh wrote:
Hi,I
am beginner in Bazi
calculation. May
I check the
following:From the 4
pillars
eight characters, it seems
to
me that the total number of
elements are only eight (4
Heavenly stems and 4 earthly
Branches). However, most of
the
geomancers' calculation
has more
than 8 elements (i.e.
4 Wood, 3
Metal, 2 Fire
etc.).Have I missed
out
anything that I comprehend
wrongly from the book?Desmond

[Cecil Lee]

You wrote: I have three dates the gynae gave to me for the delivery of my son. I will need your help in identifying which is the better one. The dates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300), 2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs).

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Please note that this is a Free GENERAL advice forum.
What you are asking is beyond, this free GENERAL advice.
You wrote: In addition, is it true that a self earth or metal element born in Spring season is generally weak regardless of the chart. (This was quoted in one of the books I read).
>Frankly; I can only say this: "It depends".

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On 4/25/2011 10:27:50 PM, Anonymous wrote:

Hi Cecil,Thank you for your prompt and
professional advice.I was in fact very
grateful that you had put in sincere
efforts to answer my
enquirieswhich was not common in
other websites. I have three dates the
gynae gave to me for the delivery of my
son. I will need your help in
identifying which is the better one. The
dates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300),
2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs).In
addition, is it true that a self earth
or metal element born in Spring season
is generally weak regardless of the
chart. (This was quoted in one of the
books I read).Awaiting a
favourable reply from
you.RegardsDesmondOn 4/22/2011 7:18:06
PM, Cecil Lee wrote:
Further to what
I had mentioned; this is
a sample of
what a SIX (6) PILLAR Chart
looks
like.On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM,
Cecil
Lee wrote:
These are some
considerations:1. The
standard
ba zi
calculations or commonly
known as
Four pillars:Year
Month
Day Hour
= Four
pillars (made up of
4 Heavenly
stems and
4Earthly
branches).2.
Here, you are
correct.3.
However,
YangBaZi or
ba zi for
the
living; there are
TWO more
pillars:-3.1.
House of
Life and3.2.
House of
Conception.Again, these two
variables
each have their
Heavenly
stems and
earthly
branches.4. Long
time ago;
thereare even more
such
"pillars"
for the dead.5. Thus
saying that
bazi is 4
Pillars
is too smplistic
approach. For Yang
Feng Shui; it
can
even be
called"SIX
pillars!"
etc...5.1. In general
House of Life;
can
"tell"
whether one has an "easy"
or"hard life".5.2. While
House
of
Conception can be used
to look at
a
husband and/or wife
on the matter
of
conceiving a
child...6. In
general
ifone charts a
SUPER-FULL
Ba zi
chart it can even
be
called "EIGHT
PILLARS". Where I
had already mentioned
the common
six. And the other two more
pillars
is associated with the
dead or
YIN
Bazi.On
4/22/2011
4:05:34 PM, Desmond
Loh wrote:
Hi,I
am beginner
in Bazi
calculation. May
I
check the
following:From the 4
pillars
eight characters, it
seems
to
me that the total
number of
elements are only
eight (4
Heavenly stems and
4 earthly
Branches).
However, most of
the
geomancers' calculation
has
more
than 8 elements (i.e.
4
Wood, 3
Metal, 2 Fire
etc.).Have I missed
out
anything that I comprehend

wrongly from the
book?Desmond

[myfs_149687]

Understand. I overlook on that. Just too eager to ask... I will seek your professional advice.