myfs_149687 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 Hi,I am beginner in Bazi calculation. May I check the following:From the 4 pillars eight characters, it seems to me that the total number of elements are only eight (4 Heavenly stems and 4 earthly Branches). However, most of the geomancers' calculation has more than 8 elements (i.e. 4 Wood, 3 Metal, 2 Fire etc.).Have I missed out anything that I comprehend wrongly from the book?Desmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 22, 2011 Staff Share Posted April 22, 2011 Further to what I had mentioned; this is a sample of what a SIX (6) PILLAR Chart looks like. Quote On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM, Anonymous wrote:These are some considerations:1. Thestandard ba zi calculations or commonlyknown as Four pillars:YearMonth Day Hour = Fourpillars (made up of 4 Heavenlystems and 4Earthly branches).2.Here, you are correct.3. However,YangBaZi or ba zi for theliving; there are TWO more pillars:-3.1.House of Life and3.2. House ofConception.Again, these two variableseach have their Heavenly stems andearthly branches.4. Long time ago;thereare even more such "pillars"for the dead.5. Thus saying thatbazi is 4 Pillars is too smplisticapproach. For Yang Feng Shui; it caneven be called"SIX pillars!"etc...5.1. In general House of Life; can"tell" whether one has an "easy"or"hard life".5.2. While House ofConception can be used to look at ahusband and/or wife on the matter ofconceiving a child...6. In generalifone charts a SUPER-FULL Ba zichart it can even be called "EIGHTPILLARS". Where I had already mentionedthe common six. And the other two morepillars is associated with the dead orYIN Bazi.On 4/22/20114:05:34 PM, Desmond Loh wrote:Hi,Iam beginner in Bazicalculation. MayI check thefollowing:From the 4pillarseight characters, it seemstome that the total number ofelements are only eight (4Heavenly stems and 4 earthlyBranches). However, most ofthegeomancers' calculationhas morethan 8 elements (i.e.4 Wood, 3Metal, 2 Fireetc.).Have I missedoutanything that I comprehendwrongly from the book?Desmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 22, 2011 Staff Share Posted April 22, 2011 These are some considerations:1. The standard ba zi calculations or commonly known as Four pillars:Year Month Day Hour = Four pillars (made up of 4 Heavenly stems and 4Earthly branches).2. Here, you are correct.3. However, YangBaZi or ba zi for the living; there are TWO more pillars:-3.1. House of Life and3.2. House of Conception.Again, these two variables each have their Heavenly stems and earthly branches.4. Long time ago; thereare even more such "pillars" for the dead.5. Thus saying that bazi is 4 Pillars is too smplistic approach. For Yang Feng Shui; it can even be called"SIX pillars!" etc...5.1. In general House of Life; can "tell" whether one has an "easy" or"hard life".5.2. While House of Conception can be used to look at a husband and/or wife on the matter of conceiving a child...6. In general ifone charts a SUPER-FULL Ba zi chart it can even be called "EIGHT PILLARS". Where I had already mentioned the common six. And the other two more pillars is associated with the dead or YIN Bazi. Quote On 4/22/2011 4:05:34 PM, Anonymous wrote:Hi,I am beginner in Bazicalculation. May I check thefollowing:From the 4 pillarseight characters, it seems tome that the total number ofelements are only eight (4Heavenly stems and 4 earthlyBranches). However, most ofthe geomancers' calculationhas more than 8 elements (i.e.4 Wood, 3 Metal, 2 Fireetc.).Have I missed outanything that I comprehendwrongly from the book?Desmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_149687 Posted April 25, 2011 Share Posted April 25, 2011 Hi Cecil,Thank you for your prompt and professional advice.I was in fact very grateful that you had put in sincere efforts to answer my enquirieswhich was not common in other websites. I have three dates the gynae gave to me for the delivery of my son. I will need your help in identifying which is the better one. The dates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300), 2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs).In addition, is it true that a self earth or metal element born in Spring season is generally weak regardless of the chart. (This was quoted in one of the books I read).Awaiting a favourable reply from you.RegardsDesmond Quote On 4/22/2011 7:18:06 PM, Anonymous wrote:Further to what I had mentioned; this isa sample of what a SIX (6) PILLAR Chartlooks like.On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM,Cecil Lee wrote:These are someconsiderations:1. Thestandard ba zicalculations or commonlyknown asFour pillars:YearMonthDay Hour = Fourpillars (made up of 4 Heavenlystems and 4Earthlybranches).2.Here, you arecorrect.3. However,YangBaZi or ba zi fortheliving; there are TWO morepillars:-3.1.House of Life and3.2.House ofConception.Again, these twovariableseach have their Heavenlystems andearthly branches.4. Longtime ago;thereare even moresuch "pillars"for the dead.5. Thussaying thatbazi is 4 Pillarsis too smplisticapproach. For YangFeng Shui; it caneven becalled"SIX pillars!"etc...5.1. In general House of Life;can"tell" whether one has an "easy"or"hard life".5.2. While HouseofConception can be used to look atahusband and/or wife on the matterofconceiving a child...6. Ingeneralifone charts aSUPER-FULL Ba zichart it can evenbe called "EIGHTPILLARS". Where Ihad already mentionedthe commonsix. And the other two morepillarsis associated with the dead orYINBazi.On 4/22/20114:05:34 PM, Desmond Loh wrote:Hi,Iam beginner in Bazicalculation. MayI check thefollowing:From the 4pillarseight characters, it seemstome that the total number ofelements are only eight (4Heavenly stems and 4 earthlyBranches). However, most ofthegeomancers' calculationhas morethan 8 elements (i.e.4 Wood, 3Metal, 2 Fireetc.).Have I missedoutanything that I comprehendwrongly from the book?Desmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staff Cecil Lee Posted April 25, 2011 Staff Share Posted April 25, 2011 You wrote: I have three dates the gynae gave to me for the delivery of my son. I will need your help in identifying which is the better one. The dates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300), 2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs). Quote Please note that this is a Free GENERAL advice forum.What you are asking is beyond, this free GENERAL advice. You wrote: In addition, is it true that a self earth or metal element born in Spring season is generally weak regardless of the chart. (This was quoted in one of the books I read).>Frankly; I can only say this: "It depends". Quote On 4/25/2011 10:27:50 PM, Anonymous wrote: Hi Cecil,Thank you for your prompt andprofessional advice.I was in fact verygrateful that you had put in sincereefforts to answer myenquirieswhich was not common inother websites. I have three dates thegynae gave to me for the delivery of myson. I will need your help inidentifying which is the better one. Thedates given are 1/5/11 (0900-1300),2/5/11 (0900-1100 or 1500-1700 hrs).Inaddition, is it true that a self earthor metal element born in Spring seasonis generally weak regardless of thechart. (This was quoted in one of thebooks I read).Awaiting afavourable reply fromyou.RegardsDesmondOn 4/22/2011 7:18:06PM, Cecil Lee wrote:Further to whatI had mentioned; this isa sample ofwhat a SIX (6) PILLAR Chartlookslike.On 4/22/2011 5:08:55 PM,CecilLee wrote:These are someconsiderations:1. Thestandardba zicalculations or commonlyknown asFour pillars:YearMonthDay Hour= Fourpillars (made up of4 Heavenlystems and4Earthlybranches).2.Here, you arecorrect.3.However,YangBaZi orba zi fortheliving; there areTWO morepillars:-3.1.House ofLife and3.2.House ofConception.Again, these twovariableseach have theirHeavenlystems andearthlybranches.4. Longtime ago;thereare even moresuch"pillars"for the dead.5. Thussaying thatbazi is 4Pillarsis too smplisticapproach. For YangFeng Shui; itcaneven becalled"SIXpillars!"etc...5.1. In generalHouse of Life;can"tell"whether one has an "easy"or"hard life".5.2. WhileHouseofConception can be usedto look atahusband and/or wifeon the matterofconceiving achild...6. Ingeneralifone charts aSUPER-FULLBa zichart it can evenbecalled "EIGHTPILLARS". Where Ihad already mentionedthe commonsix. And the other two morepillarsis associated with thedead orYINBazi.On4/22/20114:05:34 PM, DesmondLoh wrote:Hi,Iam beginnerin Bazicalculation. MayIcheck thefollowing:From the 4pillarseight characters, itseemstome that the totalnumber ofelements are onlyeight (4Heavenly stems and4 earthlyBranches).However, most ofthegeomancers' calculationhasmorethan 8 elements (i.e.4Wood, 3Metal, 2 Fireetc.).Have I missedoutanything that I comprehendwrongly from thebook?Desmond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
myfs_149687 Posted April 26, 2011 Share Posted April 26, 2011 Understand. I overlook on that. Just too eager to ask... I will seek your professional advice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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