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Elros

Clarify Bazi reading & name tweak

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Hi Sifu,

Firstly, Happy CNY! I am excited and happy to be part of this community. Just went through my full Bazi report and thought it was very comprehensive. Thank you for doing this for us.

To follow-up, I have three questions I'd like to clarify. For your reference, my birthday is Feb 10 1987 10:51pm.

1) Favorable elements. My report tells me that they are Earth and Metal, which makes sense since I'm weak Metal. However, there are some that say since my Metal is extremely weak, my favorable elements are actually Wood and Water. Why is that, and how should I resolve this?

2) Career. My report says that this decade I'll have more Earth but I'm not sure if it's enough for me to focus on Wood and Fire careers (Wealth/Power). I'm currently working as management in software (Fire?) and was a strategy consultant (Wood?) but thinking of working for a real-estate software company (Earth/Fire?) and becoming a part-time loan signing agent (Metal?). What do you think?

3) Name tweak. Currently my chinese name is 林文汉 (Wood Water Water) but I'm thinking of tweaking it to 林珳汉 (Wood Metal Water). That way I'll add some Metal/Earth without having to change my name's pronunciation. Would you recommend against doing this?

Thanks again for all the time that you put into what you do, and I hope to hear from you soon.

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Hi Elros,

Happy Chinese New Year to you too! Glad that you found the report comprehensive. Please see my replies below:-

5 hours ago, Elros said:

1) Favorable elements. My report tells me that they are Earth and Metal, which makes sense since I'm weak Metal. However, there are some that say since my Metal is extremely weak, my favorable elements are actually Wood and Water. Why is that, and how should I resolve this?

 

 

1. Honestly, I have no idea how other people analyse your bazi, but I can tell you that depending on the how comprehensive and detailed the analysis was done to determine your five element percentage. If they do not consider all the factors such as even combinations between some elements that result in changes of elements, the clashes/harms that occur. Often than not, they can get your element strength incorrectly and also the breakdown of the percentage incorrectly, resulting in different interpretations.

 

2. Based on your current ba zi chart from our analysis, your percentage breakdown is as follows:-

Element
Strength
 
Percentage
1 Water
Weak
element_1.gif
5.7 %
8 Wood
Strongest
element_2.gif
75.5 %
2 Fire
Strong
element_3.gif
15.1 %
0 Earth
Extremely Weak
element_4.gif
0 %
1 Metal
Weakest
element_5.gif
3.8 %

 

3. As a weak Metal person, the elements:-

3.1 That would make you a Strong Metal would be Earth (0%) + Metal (3.8%) = Total 3.8%

3.2. That would make you a Weak Metal would be Wood (75.5%) + Fire (15.1%) = Total 90.6%

3.3. Water 5.7% element helps to strengthen the elements that make you weak, while exhausting away the Metal that makes you strong. Hence, this cancel itself out in the balancing equation. Hence, we don't consider it as part of the initial balancing equation when determining your initial element strength.

 

4. Since total elements making you weak is 90.6% > than the total elements making you strong is 3.8%. Hence, you are a weak Metal person. As there is no way your 3.8% elements can overcome the overwhelming 90.6% elements that make you weak. As the ratio is like 1:30, too unbalanced.

 

5. Hence, as a weak Metal:-

5.1. Your favourable elements would then be Earth (0%) the element you lack most followed by Metal (3.8%).

5.2. While Unfavourable elements would be Wood (75.5%) and Fire (15.1%).  Where Wood should be avoided as all cost as there is way too much, way beyond the ideal 20% range. Fire element while it is your unfavourable element, it is still below 20%, so you can still add some Fire when you have added sufficient Earth and Metal element first. This is because the goal is to bring each element percentage to 20%. However, you cannot add Fire without first adding Earth+Metal, as Fire while it will exhaust the Wood, it will also destroy your Metal. Hence, unless you boost your Earth+Metal first, adding Fire on it's own will only melt your already weak Metal, as the Fire will be further boosted by the 75.5% Wood. 

5.3. As a weak Metal, Water by default will also exhaust your Metal and make Wood Stronger even though it will help to control some Fire. However, the production effect will already make your Wood much stronger and in turn the Wood will continue to make the Fire strong which negates the impact of the Water destroying your Fire element.

 

6. So in order to balance your five element, you have to add in this order:-

6.1. Add Elements you lack the most which is Earth, why? Earth will exhaust the Fire that weaken you while converting it into helping you produce Metal. Then it will in turn help you to produce more Metal, making you a Strong Metal. And finally, it will destroy the Water which will eventually weaken you. So in this case, Fire and Water percentage will be subsequently weaken while Earth and Metal element percentage will increase.

6.2. Add the next Element you lack which is Metal, why? Metal will exhaust the the Earth while helping to strengthen the Metal. This will in turn help you to be strong enough to destroy the Wood element that you have too much off. Metal will also help to make the Water stronger and control some of your excessive Metal,  which in turn help to destroy the Fire that is also weakening you. So in this case, Fire and Wood percentage will subsequently weaken, while Wood and Water will increase. Although water is still your unfavourable but at 5.7%, there is still room to have a bit more as the percentage is still below the ideal 20%. But you cannot add Water by itself without Earth or Metal first. This is the same as you cannot add more Fire by itself without Earth and Metal first.

6.3. Wood element you should completely avoid, as you have way too much. Generally, >50% is already very bad, but at 70%, that's way too much. Hence, adding the Earth+Metal will reduce this.

6.4. Fire element while it is your unfavourable element, but as you only have 15.1%, it's still below 20%, so adding some Fire will still help exhaust the Fire element and convert the energy into producing Earth, while also helping to keep Metal in check. As the goal is to have 20%, you also don't want your Earth and Water element too be too much, as that will again bring everything out of balance. So in this case, by adding Fire, the Wood percentage will reduce, but the Earth percentage will increase. 

Eventually, your five element percentage will start to be closer to the 20% range for each five elements.

 

7. So back to the question, why would some people recommend Wood and Water as your favourable elements. This would be incorrect, because Wood will make your Wood percentage too strong, while water while it help to destroy the Fire element, but it would also make your Wood too strong. So I think they either didn't get your five element percentage breakdown correctly. I think it could be more likely because they didn't consider some of the combinations of elements which results in changes in your initial element.

7.1 Because if you look at your initial ba zi chart. If I take the raw elements. You would probably have:-

  • 3 Water (But 2 of these water got converted to Wood, resulting in 1 Water)
  • 4 Wood (But got 4 additional one, resulting in 8 Wood) - This addition of 4+4 = 8 is why your Wood element percentage is so high.
  • 3 Fire (But 1 of these Fire got converted to Wood, resulting in 2 Fire)
  • 1 Earth (But 1 of this Earth got converted to Wood, resulting in 0 Earth)
  • 1 Metal  (No conversion, so 1 Metal)

7.2. I think because these weren't considered, so the five element percentage calculated from the initial element would be very different. Hence, probably why the recommended elements were different.

 

8. However, as you can see from the above explanation, we used a series of mathematical percentage, a clear understanding of Elements (Productive, Destructive, and Exhaustive cycle), and priority of most favourable elements to least unfavourable elements in order to balance the element. This would give you much clearer and understanding of why our recommended elements are in this order. This is fundamental of how our site applies various different concept by prioritizing which needs to be assess first and so forth.

 

5 hours ago, Elros said:

2) Career. My report says that this decade I'll have more Earth but I'm not sure if it's enough for me to focus on Wood and Fire careers (Wealth/Power). I'm currently working as management in software (Fire?) and was a strategy consultant (Wood?) but thinking of working for a real-estate software company (Earth/Fire?) and becoming a part-time loan signing agent (Metal?). What do you think?

 

 

9. Based on your Balance of Five Elements for Age 32 - 41 (2019 - 2028)

1 Water 8 Wood 3 Fire 3 Earth 2 Metal
element_1.gif element_2.gif element_3.gif element_4.gif element_5.gif
4.8 % 64.5 % 19.4 % 4.8 % 6.5 %

9.1. While Earth (4.8%) and Metal (6.5%) percentage is now 11.5%, it is still against an overwhelming Wood+Fire at 83.9%. But of course, it is a bit better as the percentage is reduced from 90.6%.

9.2. Don't forget that each year, your percentage will still change a bit. But even with the additional yearly influence, it is unlikely that there will be enough Earth and Metal as the percentage is just too much with a nearly 1:8 ratio of Favourable vs Unfavourable odds. But better than the initial 1:30 ratio. So I think to consider Wealth/Power element career is unlikely to be a good idea for a chart that is as unbalanced as yours.

 

10. As for type of elements in career etc:-

10.1. management in software (Fire?) - Programming and Project Management is generally more Wood element job scope, which Wood element is not the most favourable elements for you without Earth+Metal. Software is in IT technology which is Metal+Water element job industry. Metal element portion is good for you, but water element is not so good without Earth+Metal. Since there is some Metal element so the job industry is still considered suitable.

10.2. strategy consultant (Wood?) - Consultant is Wood element, which again is not the most favourable type of job scope without Earth+Metal.

10.3. Real-estate software company (Earth/Fire?) - Real Estate is property which is Earth element. Software company is more IT technology Metal+Water element. Since there is Metal, so the Water element while not your most favourable will still be okay.

104. a part-time loan signing agent (Metal?).  - Loan should the Finance related so it is Metal element. Metal is one of your favourable element so it is suitable.

 

5 hours ago, Elros said:

3) Name tweak. Currently my chinese name is 林文汉 (Wood Water Water) but I'm thinking of tweaking it to 林珳汉 (Wood Metal Water). That way I'll add some Metal/Earth without having to change my name's pronunciation. Would you recommend against doing this?

 

 

11. Chinese Name Analysis requires a fair bit of analysis to really be able to comment properly. As there is more than just the elements based on the character shape. The Name stroke group that your entire name falls under would also need to be considered. But yes picking a good name does help improve your five element percentage especially if done from birth. As the name is with you when you are born. Everything your name is called, you benefit from the name luck. But it only covers a small percentage of the overall luck.

 

12. A person's luck is influenced by 3 forms of luck, of which each luck comprise of about 33.3% of your overall luck.:-

  • Heaven Luck - Luck you are born with and supposed to have (based on your Ba Zi etc)
  • Earth Luck - Luck from your home and surrounding (Feng Shui of your Home/Office etc)
  • Human Luck - Luck from your relationship with others and own hard work.

 

13. So Chinese Name forms part of your Heaven Luck, which accounts for about 5-10% of your 33.3% of your Heaven Luck. So in reality, it will only forms about 1.6-3.3% of your overall Heaven+Earth+Human Luck. So while it is important, it usually only beneficial when done from birth. As the time you are likely to use the Chinese Name is when you are still in School, as your family and friends would be calling your name every day while you are in school. Once you are working, most of the time, because of the use of your Western name, it's likely that your full Chinese Name may not be even used. So even if you do change it, but no one knows or call it, it won't be effective. Hence, I normally won't recommend making any name changes once you are an adult. Unless of course, your career depends on it such as as an Actor/Actress who is known by their Name.

 

14. So yes, while changing a name will certainly help improve it if your name is important for your work. Otherwise, you will find it more worth it to focus on improving your Earth Luck (ie your Home or Office Feng Shui) which influences 33.3% vs <3.3% (Changing Name).

 

15. Anyway, back to your question. Based on my experience, if you plan to only change just the character to retain the same pinyin, the odds that the name change will result in a better Name Stroke Goup etc will be quite slim. Often than not, unless you are not restricted ie can change the entire name, it would give a better change of getting a better name stroke group. Most name depending on surname have the highest name stroke group at about 80-96%. Most name stroke group usually will fall between 40-60%, so odds of an matching an existing name  that will be better than the existing one is very slim if there is further restriction on the characters strokes etc. Chances are it may improve only by a bit of the combinations of the characters are good.

 

16. But you got the correct idea that if you can change a character that sounds the same with one that have a better element, that may help. How much really depends. Without working out the details it's quite different to tell you for sure. But again, like I mentioned. I doubt you will really see much of a different since the impact on your overall luck is going to be very small especially once you have reach adulthood. 

 

 

 

 

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Hi Sifu Robert,

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to reply so quickly! I was very pleasantly surprised especially because today is Sunday. 

I reread your response several times as it was so comprehensive. Tried to think of follow-up questions but really couldn't because you've covered everything in detail. Additionally, it's helped me understand my elements much better. 

Thanks to you, I'm feeling more confident and able to prepare for this coming period. Will read up more of your materials and hopefully contribute in the future also. Have a great weekend and a prosperous year ahead!

Best Wishes, Adrian

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