Earth Strength

[myfs_81218]

1. Two bks read recently indicates the
seasonal tables of earth as follows :
Lillian Too's Chinese Wistom Pg 49 :
"earth is regarded as being equally
strong or weak throughout the year."
Personalise your feng shui by Dr Evelyn
Lip Pg 17 : "Earth = Strong throughout
the season".
In the free personal feng shui element
report, mine is weak earth. Pls confirm.
2. What's the difference in being a weak or
strong element. Does if affect one's
destiny, health, wealth, career, choice
of house & etc.

[Cecil Lee]

Dear Anon,
1. Every seasons lasts for three months. And the third month of every season, is considered the earth element.
2. What this means is that:-
Spring comes, Spring dies (earth becomes strong)
Summer comes, Summer dies (earth becomes strong)
Autumn comes, Autumn dies (earth becomes strong)
Winter comes, Winter dies (earth becomes strong)
3. Thus both authors are not wrong to say
what you had mentioned.
4. However, in a Ba Zi or Pillars of destiny, the Year, Month, Day, Time, House of Life and House of Conception are looked at. (Where each pillar e.g. Year, month etc... has each a heavenly stem and earthly branch.
5. These elements are looked at in relation to the day of birth pillar. For example, if the day pillar has earth element. The free report by default only provides the birth element and default the strength to weak.
6. Attached, please find example 1: A person who is considered as a weak earth person.
7. The Ba Zi computation takes care of which season, earth is strongest or weakest as this will affect the element at the time you were born.
Therefore, the report has taken into consideration many of the factors i.e. what is your season of birth, any clash, or combinations of your elements.
8. Many of us, may not be aware but, many practitioners fall short of fully analysing the birth chart of a person.
For example, in this attached sample, one will see that some FS practitioners may mistaken the person born in that date to be a `strong earth' person.
Here is how they could easily have mistaken the person to be strong. And this is an actual case where one practitioner had got it wrong as they not done sufficient work.
The mistake has arisen to consider the person as strong earth element:-
Most of the normal ba zi analysis will only consider the Year, Month, Day & Hour of Birth. If you consider only that, you can see from the example 1.
The original elements in the chart will be as follows:-
2 Metal
3 Earth
1 Wood
2 Fire
0 Water
This is assuming no combinations was considered and the House of Life and House of Conception was not taken into account.
In the above, you can see that being a Earth person, he has 3 earth, plus 2 fire whichi produces it. This makes his favourable elements to be 5 out of 8 elements. Which is already a clear indication that he is likely to be a Strong Earth person (even if we do not yet consider the seasons of birth influence).
However, if you consider the Combination which occur in Hour or Day Earthly Branch wei and Year Earthly Branch wu. This is a combination that will occur and because of the favourable conditions it will combine to change the original element from wei-wu (earth-fire) to Wood element. This change reduces the two favourable elements earth and fire and change it to 2 unfavourable element wood which destroy Earth.
2 Metal
2 Earth
3 Wood
1 Fire
0 Water
Thus, if you consider the combinations that resulted, the final element summary would be different and thus, making it a weaker Earth than originally determined.
Similiarly, because now the House of Life and House of Conception was considered, there will be further changes to the element summary which affects whether a person is weak or strong.
All the analysis done in the computerised version takes into account every possible Clash,Harm,punishment & self punishment, and every possible Joins, Double/Triple combinations. Every additional analysis will have an overall impact on the final analysis.
However, if any one analysis is yet to be considered, the final analysis deduced will never be accurate. Thus, we find that it is a pitty that many calculation done are often lacking in many of detailed analysis in order to do a complete Pillars of Destiny Analysis.
Therefore, the environment earth strength has already being factored into the Ba Zi.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil Lee

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On 5/8/2002 12:04:00 PM, Anonymous wrote:
1. Two bks read recently
indicates the
seasonal tables of earth as
follows :
Lillian Too's Chinese Wistom
Pg 49 :
"earth is regarded as being
equally
strong or weak throughout the
year."
Personalise your feng shui by
Dr Evelyn
Lip Pg 17 : "Earth = Strong
throughout
the season".
In the free personal feng shui
element
report, mine is weak earth.
Pls confirm.
2. What's the difference in
being a weak or
strong element. Does if affect
one's
destiny, health, wealth,
career, choice
of house & etc.

[Cecil Lee]

Dear All,
In this second part, one can also see how often, many FS practitioners get their Ba Zi wrong.
In fact, these two case studies are real life examples, where, these two persons, were `mislead' to think that their elements were i.e in the first earlier example - strong earth. While in this second example, they were told that the analysis resulted in this case as a weak earth.
This example shows how, this person especially due to double combinations of his element became a `strong earth' person.
Depends on how comprehensive the analysis, most of the analysis takes only the basic 4 pillars. Thus the resulting elements would be:-
1 Water
2 Earth
2 Wood
1 Fire
2 Metal
Given the seasons of birth Earth is Extremely Weak and he has 2 extremely weak earth, plus 1 Strong Fire against, 2 Strongest Wood and 1 Water which destroy Fire.
This would seem at a glance that this person is a weak Earth. If you consider all the clash and combinations etc.
0 Water
1 Earth
3 Fire
2 Wood
2 Metal
Again, if you consider the combinations and clashes, the resulting elements would change as above. In this case, the number of Fire would increase, decreasing the water which unfavourable for this person as there is now water now to destroy the Fire which is a Earth person's favourable element. Thus, this person is not as weak as it original seem.
In addition, if you have the full blown chart with the House of Life and house of Conception, again, this will change as there is additional 2 Fire element added from his House of LIfe and House of Conception. In additon, there is an additional Earth element in the House of Conception.
0 Water - weak
2 Wood - strongest
5 Fire - strong
2 Earth - extremely weak
3 Metal - weakest
No doubt, this person is a extremly weak earth, but it is strengthen by the 5 strong Fire which exhaust the 2 strongest wood to again give strength to the extremely weak earth.
So under this circumstances, this person is a Strong Earth as opposed to a weak Earth as originally defined.
Determining a person's element strength is extremely important as a weak earth is different from a strong earth. In our reports, we go all out to provide all the necessary analysis to determine this as we understand the importance and impact of having determined the correct element strength.
Warmest Regards,
Cecil