HDB Fernvale Vines BTO launched in February 2019 + an in-depth understanding on main doors facing each other inauspicious? True or False? By understanding this, we can apply elsewhere

[Cecil Lee]

Sales Brochure Resources

Site Plan and Floor Plans
fernvale-vines.pdf
 

Estimated Completion date is Year 2023.

Based on the above Estimated Completion Date, under Flying Stars Feng Shui; this development would have been completed under Period 8.

But when we prepare an individual Feng Shui Chart, will certainly discuss especially the wealth luck also from 2024 onwards, due to a change of Qi.

[Cecil Lee]

Part 1: Common Rubbish Bins (Two: Common and recycle bins each)

1. The planners did a great job of positioning the common rubbish bins centrally, away from all the units within each block.

1.1. Unlike the HDB Boon Lay Glade (from the same February 2019 BTO launch), this development does not have stacks or unit main doors facing the common bins or located too close to them.

2. However, for those considering low-floor units on the 2nd or 3rd storey, there might be occasional smells when the rubbish truck reverses towards the collection point if you're at home during its arrival. This could affect units like 500, 516, 518, 536, 534, 538, 552, 554, 570, 572, 568, 594, 584, and 582.

[Cecil Lee]

Part 2: Staggered block/stack layout can result in potential sharp corners (poison arrows)

1. How can I tell if my unit is affected by a poison arrow?

1.1. The site plan can only provide a rough estimation of the likelihood of a potential poison arrow.

1.2. More importantly, if the sharp corner is not directed at an opening such as a window, it is not a concern.

2. For Block 466B, stack 502, between storeys 1 to 7, it is possible for the sharp corner of the MSCP to be aimed at a bedroom opening, which could be an issue.

[Cecil Lee]

Part 3: Fernvale Vines and the two Precinct Pavilions (PPs)

1. Your checklist for purchase of a unit at Fernvale Vines should include the consideration of low level flats that has a view into one of the two PPs in this development.

2. Low floor stacks close-by to the PPs should also be taken note of. As sometimes, religious prayers and ceremonies are performed at these PPs.

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Part 4: Electrical Sub-Station (ESS)

1. The planners of this development has done an acceptable job to incorporate the ESS together with the 2-storey Elderly Facility with roof garden access.

2. This ESS is quite a distance away from the nearest stacks: 506, 508, 510 and 512. Thus overall for the majority of stacks/units in Fernvale Vines.. can be considered  a non-issue.

[Cecil Lee]

Part 5: Sites reserved for Schools

1. Above: Directly south of Fernvale Vines plot of land, is a site reserved for a school.

2. Below: While to the north of this site is another site reserved for another school.

3. Should I be concerned?

3.1. Yes, especially if a unit directly faces a construction site, as blocks 464A and 464B's south-facing stacks are adjacent to this reserved site.

3.2. Noise pollution and dust are common throughout the school's construction, which often lasts 2 to 2.5 years or more.

3.3. Fortunately, not many, but some Feng Shui practitioners and individuals believe that living facing a school is not ideal.

3.3.1 Their main concern is that after school hours, the school compound becomes inactive. In the evenings, they consider a school to have a YIN environment.

3.3.2 Technically, this is true, but during the morning and afternoon, the activities of many young people create a burst of Yang Qi in daylight hours.

[Cecil Lee]

Part 6: In the early 1980's, Fernvale Vines site has a road: Seletar East Farmway splitting the site running North to South cutting this site in-half:-

1. The Seletar East Farmway land was primarily used for agriculture, pig rearing, and poultry farming.

2. Between 1978 and the 1980s, I attended Clerk Class II, Clerk Class I, NCO II, and NCO I at the School of Manpower in Seletar West Camp. We often traveled past Jalan Kayu, and once we reached Yio Chu Kang leading towards Jalan Kayu Road, the unmistakable smell of pig farming would fill our army vehicles.

3. In some earlier forum postings, I shared about the cleared land around Fernvale Vines. By then, the LRT had been completed. The photos should still be somewhere within this forum.

4. Here is the 1966 map of the area:

Fernvale Vines once stood at the intersection of Lorong Kechapi and the edge of Lorong Chengai, though these roads no longer exist. To the west of Fernvale Vines or Parc Botannia, there used to be a market—yes, a market! This area holds a rich history, being located just south of the former British Seletar Camp.

[Cecil Lee]

Please read this before (happily) posting a question.

 

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Part 7: Is there frequent aircraft/helicopter noise since Fernvale Vines is so close to the Seletar Airport?

1. One consolation is that many parts of Singapore experience aircraft flying overhead. Some clients have shared feedback from Punggol, Tengah, and even East Coast.

2. For now, it's mostly around the Paya Lebar area... but once the airbase moves to Tengah, this will be a thing of the past.

3. In my opinion, most flights to Seletar currently approach from the sea. However, Malaysia has recently raised concerns about not being able to maximize the height of some buildings near Seletar due to height restrictions... Hopefully, planes won't start coming inland too often...

4. Question: So what now? Your guess is as good as mine!

4.1. Check around online, ask friends, etc. Any similar issues around the Sengkang West/Fernvale area?

** Don't expect me to have the answer! ** LOL

More....

Five years later, after becoming eligible for resale:

Your agent: "This location is great, you know! South of the Aviation Hub! Rolls Royce is just a few kilometers away!"

Potential buyer: "But... I work in the city, lah! So how? And nowadays the LRT trains are so crowded!"

Your agent: "You can always rent out the place!"

Potential buyer: "If I do, I won't have anywhere else to stay!"

Your agent: "Okay, NEXT! (This one isn't my buyer.)" Not my potential buyer for this area. LOL!

Hey! What is the problem chaps! We at Punggol are most affected! As Fernvale Vines is too far in .... the planes fly more frequently closer to the coast... LOL

[Cecil Lee]

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Got it? Get it? LOL

[Cecil Lee]

Part 8: A total of six 2-room Flexi (Type 2) main entrance door has a view of one of the common bins. From my past experience, the outermost 2nd bins are most likely the recycle bins:-

Stacks 506, 508, 526, 528, 560 & 562:-

Frankly not serious but can be a stigma especially if either relatives, friends and even later outsiders who have a interest in the future to purchase a unit at Fernvale Vines.

 

[invalid address]

Hello Master, thanks for sharing your analysis of this BTO project.

Upon studying the resources, I noticed:

1. There are stacks with front doors either facing the staircase or are located next to the staircase;
2. Some stacks have their front doors directly facing their neighbours' front doors, such as 584 and 586, 580 and 582 as well as 530 and 532, among others.

What are the fengshui considerations when selecting stacks with these features? Are there any cause for concerns?

Also, re #2, I've heard this could lead to quarrels between the two affected families, is this true?

Thanks!

[Cecil Lee]

On 2/25/2019 at 12:38 PM, invalid address said:

Hello Master, thanks for sharing your analysis of this BTO project.

Upon studying the resources, I noticed:

1. There are stacks with front doors either facing the staircase or are located next to the staircase;
2. Some stacks have their front doors directly facing their neighbours' front doors, such as 584 and 586, 580 and 582 as well as 530 and 532, among others.

What are the fengshui considerations when selecting stacks with these features? Are there any cause for concerns?

Also, re #2, I've heard this could lead to quarrels between the two affected families, is this true?

Thanks!

1. Frankly, in my opinion, #2 is based more on common sense or symbolism. This is the reason:-

1.1. In fact, many, many Condos and EC developments have this situtation.

Can one see the similarity of this with a main door facing another neighbour's door. Here, there is more likely some interaction vs another neighbour's door that does not face your unit. Primarily this is based on pure common sense:-

1.2. In this example: it is a bedroom door facing another bedroom door.

There are a few cures used by various Feng Shui Masters (FSMs). This is one of them... which consider this to be more practical and less inconspicuous... wait till you see some of the other recommendations by other FSMs.. LOL

1.3. Some other common sense reasons:There

1.3.1 Often if both neighbours leave their doors opened, if a neighbour's unit is pretty noisy, it can be quite irritation if equally you like leaving the door opened especially since this makes the unit breezy. But because of such "noise pollution"; one may thus have no choice but to close the door. Such as one has a baby .. etc... 

This link shows another technique of a protective curb place at the main door. But this is only possible for older generation HDB flats that are not wheel chair friendly 

1.3.2 Sometimes the neighbour may encroach into "your common corridor" eg. extra large shoe cabinet(s) and or placing plants and/or hoarding items. Such items are such an eye-sore and irritation especially if you are the "neat and tidy" type.

1.3.3 Some neighbours threw their shoes and sandals all over and even spill over to your unit.

1.4 Sometimes, alternatively, it could be your neighbour got irritated with you and/or family members leading to bad blood spilling over each other....

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2. You wrote:  "There are stacks with front doors either facing the staircase or are located next to the staircase;"

2.1. I have some resources where the main entrance (front doors) of units directly facing a staircase. Especially older generation HDB flats. Use Search feature for e.g. "Main door facing stairs". I have added a link to some of these resources = see below...

2.2. Under symbolism in Feng Shui, it is considered inauspicious for a main entrance to face a staircase that goes down to a lower floor. It symbolises wealth flowing downwards.

2.3. Frankly for new generation HDB flats such as Fernvale Vines; the good news is that "legally" all staircases must have at least half-hour rated fire doors. Plus all staircase doors must be CLOSED AT ALL TIMES! [This comes under: both common sense and SDCF Fire Safety code]

2.3.1. This has to do with common sense! If higher floor occupants need to evacuate.. such exit doors MUST BE able to CLOSE after people enter the stairs =  are to prevent any smoke or fire going into the stairwell!

3. For the last reason under Para 2.3. If the stair-case door is always closed; then the concern you mentioned does not apply. But if someone keeps on leaving the door opened.. then this can be reported and in the end, the final verdict is that one can win the case - if so.

3.1 If one does a search in this forum can view several resouces on this subject. One of which is similar to this case:

4. Thank one's luck star that the Fernvale Vines is the newer generation flats else for older block designs..may have to resort to the.... 

5. Don't want to place convex ba gua mirror? Possible?... 

Morale of this information: Please note that majority of Feng Shui considerations are based simply on pure common sense! 

Thus each time when I approach any subjected matter, I will always ask myself this: "Has common sense have to do with this?"

You will be surprised! That not everything has its origin from/in Feng Shui!

For example, my toes keep on laughing whenever I find the reasoning that one's bed should have four legs. And the explanation was: " To allow good qi to flow below the bed!" 

If you do come across a Feng Shui Master that says this.. please ignore the person like the plaque! 

Frankly, it has to do purely with common sense.

With four legs, the area below the bed can easily be cleaned. (Dusty, dust mites etc.. ) 

If too lazy, one can even sent in a robot to clean that area!

[Cecil Lee]

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Note: This is purely fiction. Neither have I evaluated the pricing of each of the BTO

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Part 9: Is price a Feng Shui consideration?

Daddy and mummy how come not Towner Crest?

Daddy: Dear darling, you are still young to know that for certain locations especially mature estates and locations close-by or next to MRT stations, these flats are often sold at a premium!

And unfortunately, I cannot afford these flats. Another reality check is: you know, your mum was retrenched and her job was stolen. Your daddy, also does not have an iron rice bowl.

Daddy: In recent years, we had a wake-up call when the Minister of National Development announced that HDB flats have zero value when the lease is up.

Daddy: So sorry; I know; nowadays Sengkang WEST LRT even with it's two trains is packed like sardines during peak-periods! 

Daddy: By the time we move-in; I will train your body to endure the potential squeeze in the trains. And prevent molestations. Or like some others.. hopefully.. the alternative is via bus.

Daddy:  Anyway, I got car what! I can be your Driver! Right! Darling baby!

Sweet daughter: Daddy, by the time you collect your keys.. your car is already due for scrap! And you told me that by then you are forced to go without car! Remember!

Sweet daughter: Nevermind... you are still my daddy and I love both of you very much!

P.S. For condos and ECs units facing real water is often sold by the developer at higher premiums. Coincidentally, this perhaps coincide with the idea under Feng Shui that a home facing a pool of water is preferred.

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Note: This is purely fiction. Neither have I evaluated the pricing of each of the BTO. BTW, Feng Shui does not look at the price!

Yes! Please call this FAKE NEWS! Not REAL!

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[Cecil Lee]

Part 9: I always thought HDB's Sales Brochures are very thorough and very detailed and careful. Or rather a tad kiasu especially with their advice. But I was wrong, this time...round...

HDB forgot to add this line in RED:-

Hey! HDB, you forgot this... "Applicants are also encouraged to try out Sengkang West LRT before booking a flat." [Implied clue = During peak-hours to really get a feel]

Since you want to be kiasu.. be more detailed, lah! LOL

In addition. If HDB portrays or adopt a more "KIASEE" approach should also include:  "Applicants are also encouraged to try out Sengkang West LRT & the Circle line before booking a flat during peak-hours."

Why Circle line? For some, this is one of their life-lines... Got it? Get it? Another LOL, here.

Hey! You failed to mentioned about the NE line? Are there any secrets?

Many residents at Sengkang and even Buangkok learned the “trick, here”. Take the opposite train to Punggol, seated, and onwards to their journeys! LOL

This is what had happened at Pasir Ris, Tampines and even Simei! Got it?

[Cecil Lee]

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Commercial Products sold in the name of Feng Shui?

Geomancy.net shares your concern!

From Day 1, we have championed this: "When the buying Stops, the selling CAN!"

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Next several weeks, I will be around this area.

As there is a Group Buy at the near-by High Park Residences Condo.

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Useful resource especially if one is thinking of purchasing a private apartment.

Some of information is still of relevance to HDBs, though ...

 

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2 April 2019: HDB Fernvale Vines surroundings... not actual site

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13 April 2019: Photo taken from Block 25 High Park Residences

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Stone blocks to stabilise the foundation before piling work

[Adrian86]

Hi Sir,

would like to check stack 588 and 578, understand that 588 got poison arrow, any ways to counter this?

for stack 578, is there any possible poison arrow from existing HDB flat?

 

[Cecil Lee]

4 hours ago, Adrian86 said:

Hi Sir,

would like to check stack 588 and 578, understand that 588 got poison arrow, any ways to counter this?

for stack 578, is there any possible poison arrow from existing HDB flat?

 

Actually the review mentioned that it may be a potential poison arrow and not 100% confirmed case.

The only way is to be physically present within the unit to confirm whether it is threat or not.

It is only a threat if it is aimed towards an opening such as an open window.

I have mentioned the cure (if any) on the topic of poison arrow.

You also wrote: for stack 578, is there any possible poison arrow from existing HDB flat?

Please note that this is a new development and if stack 578 faces common green; most likely the only fear is that for lower floors  - if there are tall trees with mature tree trucks aimed towards an open window into that unit.

More likely, this stack’s corner is more of a threat to the existing HDB Block than neighbouring Block 468C is a threat to it.

Good news is that such trees (if any) takes many years to mature or grow to 4th storey or more.