Cecil Lee

Tong Shu can be considered as the equivalent of taking an X-ray. While Ba Zi dates is equivalent of an MRI scan. Another way of looking at it is : Tung Shu is equivalent standard to a Bachelor's degree. While Ba Zi is equivalent to a Master's degree. Both are considered as a degree. But Master's degree is higher than a bachelor's degree. All these could change if one is like a matriarch of a family and her first choice is that of the Tung Shu. If a person is more inclined towards the Tung Shu; then best to have a bias for this. And forgo the ba zi method if one cannot reconcile or prefer the comfort zone of the Tung Shu as one's bible. In the end of the day, it is all about feeling good or comfortable and don't look back. Another way of looking at it is that if you prefer to drive a 1970's mercedes 200. Such a car does not have all the electronics. Then go ahead with just this Tung Shu method. However, if one is into lots of electronics and gadgets of modern cars: ABS, DCS, auto-start-stop brake, hill-assist, 8 auto-gears etc.. then this is equivalent of the ba zi method.

Which method suits me? A. Tung Shu Usually if a home still has a dominantmatriarch. Who has a say or expectations and has always relied only on the Tung Shu method; then best to please this matriarch. As often, this matriarch would have the means to look at / refer to or get someone familar with the Tung Shu to select the dates. B. Ba Zi If you are a couple who does not have a "matriarch" breathing down your neck. Often, this group of persons or couples would approach a professional geomancer. And often most geomancers would require YYYY/MM/DD/HHHH. If so, they would often apply Ba Zi to select dates. Of course, there are still some geomancers or road-side fortune tellers who use the simplistic Tung Shu (book). Again, there is no right or wrong answers, here. It is similar to Numerology. Some use one method, another use another method. But do note that often, as mentioned, personalised dates may "clash" with those obtained from the Tung Shui.

This link shows a simple illustration chart between how Tung Shu vs Ba Zi select auspicious dates For some persons, selected ba zi dates coincide with the Tung Shu dates. For many others, since the dates are personalised to them and their partner; what is good in the Tung Shu may not necessary be good, here. Thus ideally, my advice is; if one were to use one method; one may be surprised to learn that it may not be good in the Tung Shu. Best to either say: I will pick dates based on e.g. Tung Shu (full stop.) Or if one chooses dates based on ba zi; then stop looking at the Tung Shu! This is simplistic chart showing the key differences between Tung Shu vs Ba Zi methods http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=6&mid=33567

With reference to this thread:- http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=33565&new= This simple chart shows the key differences between dates obtained from the Tung Shu vs Ba Zi. Note "Shu" refers simply to a book. Thus Tung Shu is simple a reference book that is produced annually. And published sometime around the 7th Chinese month for the next year.

Please refer to your previous posting. And my reply, here:http://forum.geomancy.net/phpforum/article.php?bid=2&fid=1&mid=33565&new= What you mentioned in this message is beyond this free General advice forum. As someone has to work out and confirm.....

These are some considerations: 1. Avoid marriage and even move house during Chinese Lunar 6th month? 1.1. There is some "truth" in this. As in the past and even today; some old folks or elders say that 6th lunar month is "half-half". As this is the mid-point of the lunar year. 1.2. And doing thing or getting married on a half-half 50-50 month is as inauspicious as e.g. 7th lunar month or Qin Ming month. 2. Lowest common denominator: 2.1. Traditionally, there are two methods in selecting dates:- 2.1.1. Tung Shu This book comes out a few months before the next year. It is not tagged to anyone's birth-date(s). And often, very popular with road-side fortune-tellers. Thus if one were to approach quite a few fortune-tellers, they will use this book to tell whether a date is good or not. By flipping to the correct date. Therefore, no need to do any personal calculations etc... In general, this is the easiest method to "earn money". 2.1.2 Ba Zi to derive auspicious dates. For example: http://dates.geomancy.net The lowest common denominator are several fields that are required: YYYY (Year of birth) MM (Month) DD (Day) and if one has Time of birth should "input" this. As you can notice, Tung Shu does not rely on anyone's YYYY MM DD or even HHHH. But, Ba Zi needs at least Year/Month/Day of birth to "calculate" auspicious dates. 3. Are the two methods complimentary? As mentioned above: Tung Shu method does not take into consideration a person or even combined person's specific birth-dates. For some people, what is considered "bad" in the Tung Shu may be the contrary. 4. Which method do I use? 4.1. If you consult professional geomancers, they will often based auspicious dates on one's Ba Zi details or a combination of both partner's ba zi details (YY/MM/DD/HHHH). 4.2. Most likely if one were to approach a road-side fortune teller; they will have a Tung Shu in hand. Or if you can get hold of it etc... then use this "method". 5. As mentioned, earlier: one is personalised and needs birth-date details; the other depends on a published annual book. 6. This is why often, some who in the past, who had to rely on the Tung Shu had to wait for that book to be available before selection of dates. 7. A parallel to this is akin to two websites:- http://lovesigns.net vs http://geomancy.net 8. Lovesigns.net is all about the Chinese 12 Zodiac signs. And the only field required is one's Year of birth: Dragon boy or Tiger girl or born in the Year of the Rat etc... 9. While Geomancy.net for example, applies Ba Zi which requires at least three fields: YYYY/MM/DD (and if possible but not compulsory time of birth). 9.1. Here, there can be 1 billion people born in the Year of say the Dragon. But if we consider their YYYY/MM/DD input, this field can even be further reduced to e.g. 1.6 million out of say 1 billion who were born in the year of the Dragon. 10. From a common sense point of view: which is suppose to be more accurate? 11. In my opinion: and in theory: Ba Zi is similar to today's MRI scanning. While the Tung Shu is equivalent of taking an X'ray. 11.1. An MRI scan nowadays is so colourful and able to provide slice by slice insights into any organ of a person. And able to build a 3D map. 11.2. While an X-ray even by today's standards cannot even see into real flesh. Unless e.g. a lung has foreign matter or a screw or too imbedded into the body. It is useful for rudimentary parts like detecting broken bones etc... 11.3. There is no right or wrong method. The reason why Tung Shu is so popular today is that it is as easy as opening a book and flipping to the relevant page and digesting the information. While some have even got a person's Ba Zi calculated wrongly. If so, this lies the risks, here.

Fullerton building

Raffles Place in the 1940's

Clifford Pier in the 1930's

In my opinion, it depends! For example:- A. Cartoons, Mr Bean type of movies (comical etc..) then the movie producer might even be broadly considered as skewed towards the "water" element. As laughter etc... is more akin to fluid or water... B. Documentary or Knowlege based movies that broaden our understanding of nature etc... - For example; a movie director is suppose to produce or "grow" a film. Or "grow" creativity in a film. IF so, it may be considered as Wood element. C. Propaganda films etc... - For example, if a director produces propaganda films, then people likeDr. Joseph Goebbels a nazi; he and his movie producers then his movie directors may be considered as in the "fire" element. As their aim is to "market" the ideals of Nazi German or their superior race.

A typical hawker in Singapore: 1920s

Chinese junk in Singapore waters in the 1920s

Singapore's waterfront view in the 1962

Collyer Quay

Singapore's Chinatown in 1954

Raffles Quay (Raffles Square area)

YMCA Orchard Road in the 1930's

In my opinion, this area is based on each individual's interpretation. Or rather, there is no "encylopedia britannica" on this subject. Perhaps, if you were to ask different people for their views; it can be varied. From a Chinese perspective: a concerned parent may often try their best to select an auspicious date. Thus at your side; you may have in control or a say in their auspicious dates. At times, some don't have control over dates on their in-laws side. Since you already have specific dates; and if you have already checked that they are auspicious; this is considered "Nice-to" already. Of course morally, in traditional times, western weddings imply wearing white = purity. Morally, a couple are suppose not to consummate before marriage. So if we strictly consider a church, a church cannot control one's "purity". Nor consider whether is there a specific order of their marriage. In my opinion, it does not matter. So long as the process is not stressful especially to the joyous couple. I feel this is already a plus point. "26/10/2014,

Yes:27 Jun 2014 (Fri) is the first day of the Chinese lunar6th month, 1 day. There is some "truth" in this. However, this belongs more towards "symbolism" in Chinese culture. As in the past; some matriarch of a family would caution moving in on the 6th lunar month. As she would say that it is considered "inauspicious" as the 6th lunar month is half-way towards the end of that year. And thus signifies : doing things "half-half". Thus she fears that the person would always not have something full but always 50% (half) only. Again, given that Qing Ming, the Chinese 7th ghost month... some have limited choice or really have no choice if they need to vacate a home they already sold on or by the Chinese 6th lunar month.

Please see sample illustration. Sha Qi is highlighted in purple: The 1st Sha Qi is aimed from purple marking A towards B. And the 2nd Sha Qi is aimed from C towards D. Thus these two Sha Qi's are not aimed towards your home.

About the move in timing & stove

Question: "Dear Master Cecil Lee, Hi Master Cecil Lee, sorry to disturb you. I heard from my Chinese friend it is no good to move to the new house in September,is it true? because am planning to move in the month of September." Reply: This is more a "Chinese thing". As the seventh LUNAR month is considered by the Chinese as the "Ghost Month". During this seventh lunar month, it is said that ghosts and spirits are released from the lower realm and allowed to roam freely on our physical earth. However, the first day of 7th month starts on:- Western: 27 Jul 2014 (Sun)Lunar: 2014, 7th month, 1 day And the last day is:-Western: 24 Aug 2014 (Sun)Lunar: 2014, 7th month, 29 day Thus for 2014, it does not fall in September. In certain years; the Chinese 7th lunar month may fall in September. But for this year it is in late Jul to late August 2014. Here, many Chinese not only avoid moving house but also getting married in that month.

In the early century and even up to the 1970's; many geomancers practised what is known as "kindergarten" Feng Shui. Here, East = Green; North = blue / grey / black. But today, Feng Shui takes into consideration the Flying Stars for each sector. Please see attached sample illustration. Here, this sector is located at West. And the Flying Star numbers are considered. For example, under this sector there are a combination of Mountain star #9 with Water star #3. Due to the inauspicious #3 star located at that sector; if you see the recommended colours: GREEN is not ideal; here. Thus, imagine IF this is the main door area; green should be avoided. In each bedroom, the same process is looked into. With an added consideration: the person or combined person's best colours are also considered in addition to what was mentioned above. Here, this is how Compass School: Flying Star Feng Shui is applied. Contrast this with : North = Blue / black or grey ; South = Red , East = Green etc... Here, this is considered too general, today.Most likely, if someone where to tell you about this in the Year 1970, one would be impressed with this reasoning. But Hey! This is the 2014! And this is too rudimentary... Might as well say: go throw a dice: Heads = paint Blue. Tails = paint Green?

In my opinion, several factors should be considered: 1. Is the septic tank located in the basement or buried outside the house. Located in the basement? 2. Sometimes, the quality of the sceptic tank is another consideration - how well made?

1. One has to differentiate the type of "water position" in a home or bedroom. 2. If the water position is one of those fountains or even fish tank; then this is not advisable. 3. The most utopian water "position" is actually a water fall. Here, natural water frictions with the air to create negative ions. 4. Today, air-purifiers generally consists of TWO main categories; 4.1. Air-cleaners (air-purifiers). And often, the better brands are graded as "Hospital grade" and some of the well know brands are Honeywell and Sharp. Many of such air-purifiers use an external layer of charcoal sheet and an internal air-filter. That can almost filter out 99.999% germs. And even pollens etc... Hospital grade air-cleaners use HEPA filters. 4.2. Air-cleaner + Ionizer. Brands like Sharp incorporates Ion module into their air-cleaner. Thus, it an be programmed to activate : - negative or - negative and positive ions to clean the air. Some air-conditioners have this feature. And some include silver nano technology. As "silver" is an excellent element where often, germs simply cannot attach itself or live off silver nano metal. 5. A brand like Sharp also has those water canisters to make the air-moist in an air con environment. So that one's skin will not be so dry. But it is not the water moisture that helps in health. But rather, some of these brands add the Ionizer module. And it is the Ionizer that does the job. Samsung had in recent years, produced and sold pure Ionizers to help kill 99.99% of germs. 6. Generally, air cleaners help to clean the air usually with Hepa cleaners. Water vapour systems help only to avoid too dry an air in an air-con room with our without Ionizers. While Ionizers are used to kill germs. Others use Silver nano technology also especially in some air-cons to clean the air - and kill germs. 7. Generally, these are OK.