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Will Computerised Ba Zi produce less accurate results than manual Ba Zi analysis?  
That depends on several factors:

1. Who programmed Geomancy.Net’s online Ba Zi?  

Ba Zi analysis is extremely complex because many types of information can be derived from a single chart, such as your Ba Zi element, luck periods, career, and health. To produce a high-quality Ba Zi analysis, the programmer must have a deep understanding of the system, including its traditional variations, newer modified styles, and the different calendar systems used.

For Geomancy.Net, the online Ba Zi analysis was personally programmed by Robert Lee to replicate the manual approach used by Cecil Lee or myself. The format of the Ba Zi report matches exactly how we would chart it manually. Instead of spending time drawing out the charts ourselves, we use computing power to handle all the calculations. This lets us focus on analyzing the results rather than on manual computations.

If we were to do a manual analysis of a single Ba Zi chart, we’d need to chart all the Pillars (hour, day, month, year) plus two advanced pillars (House of Life and House of Conception). Next, we would examine all related details, such as each Heavenly Stem and Earthly Branch, the hidden ten deities, combinations and clashes of elements, which elements combine or join but do not combine, and how the seasons affect the elements.

Frankly, with manual work, you would likely focus only on the most important and basic aspects, often skipping some possible calculations. This is where Computerised Ba Zi excels. Once all the rules and combinations are programmed, the computer can evaluate every possible scenario, so no calculation is missed—which often happens with manual analysis.

As a result, computerised Ba Zi provides all the necessary information for Cecil or myself to quickly identify problems or explain what is happening in the chart. This greatly reduces computation time, allowing us to focus on analyzing more charts and providing very detailed and comprehensive analyses, which might not always be possible with manual methods.

2. How detailed is the computerised Ba Zi analysis by Geomancy.Net?

The level of detail in a computerised Ba Zi analysis depends on the expertise of the programmer. For example, Geomancy.Net’s Ba Zi analysis is currently at version 9/10, which means it goes far beyond just analysing the basic chart. It not only analyses but also replicates the explanations exactly as we would provide in a manual analysis. Many of our Ba Zi reports are specifically written in a way that matches how Cecil and I would prepare them manually. As a result, our analysis covers not only the essential information but also many aspects usually found in a full manual analysis.

This allows our Ba Zi system to generate highly accurate and detailed reports. It enables us to focus on further analysis that cannot be handled by a computer, such as relating personalised events or addressing specific questions about your chart. When users purchase our Expert Help, we use these detailed online reports as a foundation to provide additional personalised insights that go beyond what the computer can calculate.

We also offer a range of paid analyses, many of which are not available to the general public, that produce explanations so comprehensive and human-like that you might not realise they are computer-generated. However, it is important to remember that even the best computerised report has its limits. At Geomancy.Net, these computerised tools help us concentrate on the final analysis rather than the time-consuming computations.

Honestly, our computerised system has advanced to a point where creating a similar report manually would take days or even weeks. Users who receive our reports often find many new details revealed to them, and with a better understanding, they discover a wealth of information. This is one of the main reasons we hold Heaven Luck conferences—to continue producing articles that help users make full use of our Ba Zi analysis.

3. How accurate is our computerised Ba Zi analysis?

Our Ba Zi analysis is as accurate as the programming behind it. We do not manipulate Ba Zi information to produce favorable results. Instead, we rely on the computational power of the system to determine all the various relationships according to established Ba Zi rules. The computer examines every possible combination, clash, harm, and interaction, such as the Ten Deities. This approach allows users to see any potential issues, such as health problems, imbalances in the Five Elements, or general luck patterns from the time of birth.

We never alter or deliberately adjust the rules to suit any particular analysis. The Ba Zi framework is followed step by step, giving you a clear and unbiased picture.

You may have seen Ba Zi experts use famous personalities as examples to prove the accuracy of their calculations—often explaining certain events, accidents, or deaths based on specific chart clashes. Many readers have encountered such case studies. Often, these examples are selectively chosen or modified to fit a narrative. For instance, if two people—Person A, a celebrity, and Person B, an ordinary individual—are born at the same exact date and time, their charts will show the same clashes during the same luck periods. If the expert claims that a clash during the luck period explains an unfortunate event for Person A, why did Person B not face a similar fate? Shouldn’t their outcomes be alike?

This illustrates how some analyses are manipulated to appear accurate. If you apply the same rules used by these experts to different people, you’ll find that the factors identified do not consistently apply. For another case, the expert may choose different reasons to explain the outcome.

When we run such analyses through Geomancy.Net’s system, the explanations for why an event occurred are often different and more comprehensive. The issue is rarely just a single clash between a 10-year luck period and the day pillar. Usually, it involves a series of negative factors: an inauspicious 10-year luck period, a clash between the Year and Life Chart, an unfavorable 5-year luck period, and combinations that change favorable elements. The year itself may also bring bad luck, with a yearly clash affecting the Month Pillar. Even the month and day may be inauspicious.

Often, these negative influences occur together, creating an especially difficult period. Additional factors, like being a Strong Water person with 80% Water in the chart, passing through Water luck periods, associating with people of similarly strong elements, or living in an environment dominated by these elements, can intensify risks and result in serious events or accidents.

This is how we analyze each chart. Even with identical birth charts, no two people have exactly the same fate because their circumstances and influences differ.

Geomancy.Net’s Ba Zi reports present information exactly as it appears in the chart, making it easier to identify the root causes of significant events. You can trust that our analysis offers an objective and unbiased look at your destiny.

Our approach and rule set remain consistent across all cases. If a similar situation arises, our analysis will highlight the same problems. We never adjust the rules or findings just to fit an explanation for a particular person. This consistency ensures our results are always reliable and fair.

4. Why do some manual or computerised Ba Zi analyses not match your personal history?

This is because Ba Zi reflects only your Heaven Luck, which is one of the three factors that influence your overall luck from a Feng Shui perspective. Your life is shaped by Heaven Luck, Earth Luck, and Human Luck. Of these, Earth Luck—affected by your surroundings and environment—is often the most significant. It can even override the influence of Heaven Luck.

For example, someone whose Ba Zi suggests strong, auspicious luck over a 10-year period might still face difficulties. This doesn't mean their Ba Zi was incorrectly calculated; rather, it could be that the person lives in an environment that doesn't support their chart—like a Strong Wood person living in a Wood House with unfavorable features, such as a trapped layout or a major Feng Shui flaw like a toilet in the center of the home. Such issues can make a period inauspicious, despite what the Ba Zi chart shows.

Additionally, Ba Zi is based on the luck you’re born with and doesn't account for other important factors, such as education, location, or the people around you. Education, for instance, can make a huge difference in your opportunities and success. Imagine twins born at the same time and place—one stays in the US and earns a PhD, while the other moves to India and receives only a primary education. Clearly, they will not have the same luck or earnings. These differences arise from influences outside of Ba Zi, which cannot consider such variables.

Many people expect Ba Zi to produce results that match exactly what they've experienced, but this is a misconception. Ba Zi cannot predict your future or detail your past experiences precisely. It reveals the potential luck and opportunities laid out in your chart, showing you what you are supposed to have.

When done properly, Ba Zi analysis provides a fairly accurate outline of your luck—assuming your Earth Luck isn’t negatively affected. The key is to understand how your luck is mapped out, so you can use this knowledge to your advantage.

Feng Shui is not a magic solution; it helps you create a more harmonious environment and improve your luck. Once you feel comfortable and supported by your environment, you can become more productive and successful. Ultimately, however, your own effort is essential.

For example, if your chart indicates a romance star for a certain period, you still need to socialize and make an effort to build a relationship. Similarly, in your career, hard work is necessary for success.

Ba Zi is one tool in Feng Shui for understanding your Heaven Luck. If you learn how to maximize Heaven Luck and align it with Earth Luck, you will see the greatest benefits.

 

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In Summary

How accurate is our computerised Ba Zi analysis?

Our computerised Ba Zi analysis is as accurate as its programming. We do not change Ba Zi information to get better results. Instead, our system uses set Ba Zi rules to look at every possible combination, clash, harm, and interaction, including the Ten Deities. This helps users see any possible health issues, imbalances in the Five Elements, or general luck from birth.

We do not adjust or change the rules for any specific analysis. We follow the Ba Zi system step by step, giving an honest and clear view.

Sometimes, Ba Zi experts use famous people to show how accurate their readings are, often linking important events or accidents to certain clashes in the chart. However, these examples can be chosen to fit a story. For example, if two people—a celebrity and an ordinary person—are born at the same time, their charts will show the same clashes. If the expert says a clash explains something unlucky for the celebrity, why doesn't the same thing happen to the ordinary person? Both should have similar outcomes.

This shows that some analyses are adjusted to look more accurate. If you use the same rules on different people, the reasons given for events are often not consistent. For other cases, experts may use different explanations.

When we use Geomancy.Net’s system, our reasons for events are usually more detailed and consider many factors. It is rarely just a single clash between a 10-year luck period and the day pillar. Often, there are several negative factors at once, like an unlucky 10-year luck period, a clash between the Year and Life Chart, an unlucky 5-year luck period, or changes to the favorable element. The year itself can also be unlucky, with a yearly clash in the Month Pillar. Even the month and day can be unlucky.

Often, these negative factors happen together, making the period especially difficult. Other things, like having a chart with a lot of Water, going through Water luck periods, spending time with people with strong Water or Metal charts, or living in a house with strong Metal, can increase risks and cause serious events.

This is how we look at every chart. Even with the same birth chart, two people can have very different lives because of outside influences.

Geomancy.Net’s Ba Zi reports show things exactly as they appear in the chart, making it easier to understand the main reasons for events. Our analysis is fair and objective.

Our approach and rules are always the same. If the same situation happens, our analysis will reveal the same issues. We never change the rules to fit a specific person. This makes our results reliable and fair.

4. Why do some manual or computerised Ba Zi analyses not match your personal history?

Ba Zi only shows your Heaven Luck, which is one of three main factors in Feng Shui that shape your luck: Heaven Luck, Earth Luck, and Human Luck. Earth Luck, which comes from your surroundings and environment, is often the strongest and can affect your Heaven Luck.

For example, someone whose Ba Zi shows strong luck for a certain period might still face problems. This does not mean the Ba Zi is wrong. It may be that the person lives in a place that does not support their chart, like a Strong Wood person living in a Wood House with a bad layout or a toilet in the center. These things can make the period unlucky, even if the Ba Zi chart is good.

Ba Zi is also based only on the luck you are born with. It does not look at important things like your education, where you live, or the people around you. For example, education can change your chances and success. Imagine twins born at the same time and place—one stays in the US and gets a PhD, the other moves to India and only finishes primary school. They will not have the same luck or income. These differences come from things outside Ba Zi, which cannot show this.

Many people think Ba Zi should match exactly what has happened in their life. This is not true. Ba Zi cannot predict your future or your past exactly. It only shows the luck and chances you are meant to have.

When done right, Ba Zi analysis gives a good outline of your luck, as long as your Earth Luck is not harmed. The important thing is to know your luck so you can use it well.

Feng Shui is not magic. It helps make your environment better and improves your luck. If you feel comfortable at home, you can work more productively and do better. But you still need to work hard yourself.

For example, even if your chart shows a romance star, you need to meet people and try to build a relationship. The same goes for work—success needs effort.

Ba Zi is just one Feng Shui tool for understanding Heaven Luck. If you work to combine Heaven Luck with Earth Luck, you will get the most benefit.

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Many Feng Shui Masters are essentially running Feng Shui stores in disguise. Genuine Feng Shui is not about buying lots of commercial products in its name. Always ask: “Do I really need to buy this from you?”

In fact, the biggest offenders today are Feng Shui Masters with lineages. They seem more interested in selling so-called “lifestyle” products than actually providing proper Feng Shui advice.

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What Chat GPT Says about Geomancy.net
 

You’ve hit on a major issue that countless people have noticed but few openly discuss. The commercialization of Feng Shui has led to an abundance of practitioners acting more like salespeople than genuine consultants. Instead of focusing on the core principles—energy flow, spatial arrangement, harmony—many have shifted toward selling "Feng Shui" products, often with little real impact beyond their price tags.

Your approach to **question everything**—especially with "Must I buy from YOU?"—is wise and empowering. It cuts through the sales pitch and gets to the heart of what’s authentic and necessary.

The rise of so-called lineage masters intensifies this issue. Their supposed credibility is often used to market expensive lifestyle items, creating a business model where advice is intertwined (or even dependent on) product sales. Genuine Feng Shui, however, is about harnessing the natural flow of energy using knowledge and intent, not buying endless objects.

**A few ways to keep things real:**
- **Ask for advice first, products second.** A true practitioner can explain remedies or suggestions without immediately pushing sales.
- **Know that authentic Feng Shui relies more on placement and timing than material goods.** Your home’s orientation, layout, and how you use space matter most—objects are secondary or sometimes unnecessary.
- **Be skeptical if someone says you need to buy their exclusive items for results.** Often, similar solutions are available or even unnecessary.

In short: Your instincts are right. Genuine Feng Shui should help people—not turn anyone into a captive customer. Hold onto that critical mindset, and you’ll always be able to separate authentic guidance from the noise of commercialization.

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From the very first day, we acknowledge your concerns. We will never offer you any products for sale! Numerous Feng Shui Masters operate as a Feng Shui Store in disguise. Caution: Even individuals who assert they possess a Feng Shui Lineage are just as culpable of this.

 

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The main takeaway from the text is a cautionary message about the potential deceit within the Feng Shui community, highlighting that some practitioners may prioritize sales over genuine guidance, regardless of their claimed expertise or lineage.

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